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#21
11-07-2005, 08:11 PM
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Re: Could you get away from this hand?
What I'm trying to say Big_Jim is that when people get fustrated about posters not knowing the "obvious" play on a certain hand... I love it.
This is a great mentality for limit play (where this is almost always a correct play) but, for no limit play... you can argue the same point for hours. The correlation on the previous post is that NO-ONE these days thinks that you are betting trips if the board comes something like Q-Q-7 and you lead out. These players that get in the rut of always thinking they know the "correct and obvious" play are the ones that re-raise this board to represent a Q because "there is no way you bet out here with trips"... I know it's a stretch... but I'm amused by people who come to a forum to talk about poker and then get offended that people want to talk about poker. It leads me to believe these players will get cocky, stagnet, whatever you want to call it... and not improve their game. 
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#22
11-07-2005, 08:15 PM
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Re: Could you get away from this hand?
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[ QUOTE ] I guess my real question is whether or not you guys change your "read" mid-stride during a hand. [/ QUOTE ] Given overwhelming evidence to the contrary of my read... yes. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think EVERY hand requires some analyzation... [/ QUOTE ] No. Given the read of villian that you provided, this hand requires 0 analysis.[ QUOTE ] How do these two quote work together Big_jim... No we don't have to analyze every hand... But yes we need to be willing to change our read if we re-analyze the hand. I'm not trying to be an azz... and i appreciate the feedback... but I'm getting a little lost.
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#23
11-07-2005, 08:17 PM
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Re: Could you get away from this hand?
Hey man,
FWIW, in my experience, when a tightish player who raises rather infrequently preflop makes it 5.5 BB from EP, this is JJ or perhaps TT or QQ *far* more often than it is AA or KK. Not to say that this is steadfast or anything, but you'd be amazed how often a slightly to significantly larger-than-average open is pocket jacks in particular, especially from a certain type of player. Just something to keep in mind when formulating your reads in the future. Oh, and as for the hand, I fold sets w/ 100BB stacks, like, never.
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#24
11-07-2005, 08:17 PM
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Re: Could you get away from this hand?
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The correlation on the previous post is that NO-ONE these days thinks that you are betting trips if the board comes something like Q-Q-7 and you lead out. These players that get in the rut of always thinking they know the "correct and obvious" play are the ones that re-raise this board to represent a Q because "there is no way you bet out here with trips"... [/ QUOTE ] what are you talking about, this is completely different from your original post betting out with trips is good, but theres different situations for it your hand was "i know he has AA/KK" (you said this EXPLICITLY in your original post) and you flopped a set with no A or K on the board what exactly do you want to talk about? obviously your read is off, but even so, if he does this with AA, KK, QQ, JJ, youre still good enough to get it in its not like you had stacks of $5000 and he re-raised all-in you had 100 BB stacks, and you hit your money card this really has no correlation to betting out/not betting out with trips. thats situational. NO ONE bets out with trips? i personally bet out with trips all the time
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#25
11-07-2005, 08:27 PM
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Re: Could you get away from this hand?
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[ QUOTE ] I guess my real question is whether or not you guys change your "read" mid-stride during a hand. [/ QUOTE ] Given overwhelming evidence to the contrary of my read... yes. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think EVERY hand requires some analyzation... [/ QUOTE ] No. Given the read of villian that you provided, this hand requires 0 analysis. [/ QUOTE ] How do these two quote work together Big_jim... No we don't have to analyze every hand... But yes we need to be willing to change our read if we re-analyze the hand. I'm not trying to be an azz... and i appreciate the feedback... but I'm getting a little lost. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] In this hand, no such evidence exists.
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#26
11-07-2005, 08:32 PM
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Re: Could you get away from this hand?
This made me laugh LOUDLY.
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#27
11-07-2005, 08:43 PM
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Re: Could you get away from this hand?
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This made me laugh LOUDLY. [/ QUOTE ] I appreciate the legitimate feed back I did get. I think some of you get what I was hitting at here... and some of you are playing a different sport. END POST>
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#28
11-08-2005, 01:25 AM
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Re: Could you get away from this hand?
This should be posted in OOT. There is no poker content in this thread.
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#29
11-08-2005, 02:20 AM
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Re: Could you get away from this hand?
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I insta-call and ask if he has Aces or Kings. [/ QUOTE ] Why not just turn hand over and not say anything?
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#30
11-08-2005, 03:31 AM
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Re: Could you get away from this hand?
from the description you give it is possibly to get away from it. you really think he wouldn't make a raise like that with queens? and in this case jacks? you don't always have to stick with your initial read.
why is everybody being such a douche about this thread? since when did discussing poker warrent a ban?
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