AK vs pf raiser and pf capper

[MrWookie47]

With the intention of c/ring the turn, I take it?

[ArturiusX]

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With the intention of c/ring the turn, I take it?

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Depends a lot on how the action goes.

Bets will probably go Bet/Raise/3-bet. Shitty situation for us. I'd like to prevent bets being crammed into this pot and see a showdown with the minimum fuss possible.

[Shillx]

I would check and call the flop and then lead the turn. That should throw them off just a bit. I'm not worried about being behind in this spot at all.

[milesdyson]

i guarantee it will never go bet/raise/3-bet.

i like shill's line if i think they can fold to any flop aggression. usually they can't.

[gopnik]

don't c/r, it's bad, you'll push villains off their QQ and KK and get 3-bet by a monster. Check the flop and donk bet the turn. If just called, donk bet the river again.

[ArturiusX]

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i guarantee it will never go bet/raise/3-bet.

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2 agro players never do this [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[milesdyson]

dude you have to admit it's hardly ever happening. sure if they're aggressive enough to spew chips with QQ/KK here, but the chance that everyone hit that ace is pretty damn small.

[ArturiusX]

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dude you have to admit it's hardly ever happening. sure if they're aggressive enough to spew chips with QQ/KK here, but the chance that everyone hit that ace is pretty damn small.

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Ok, and even worse scenario;

Bet/Raise/Fold. Lost some easy dead money.

Better scenario; Check-bet-call-call, check-bet-call-raise-call-call.

Cha ching [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[milesdyson]

yeah i hate if it goes bet/raise at all, because that guy can fold. i worry that maybe waiting and check raising the turn is overly optimistic (ie. will he bet? will they call?)

so if i just check call the flop, i'm not sure i can resist just donkdonking the turn.

[numeri]

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dude you have to admit it's hardly ever happening. sure if they're aggressive enough to spew chips with QQ/KK here, but the chance that everyone hit that ace is pretty damn small.

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Ok, and even worse scenario;

Bet/Raise/Fold. Lost some easy dead money.

Better scenario; Check-bet-call-call, check-bet-call-raise-call-call.

Cha ching [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If BB really is neutral PF, is the turn getting bet with KK or QQ after we both stay in on the flop?