A discussion on calling standards

[GtrHtr]

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Ok. Wouldn't you push a huge range of hands if you were SB here?

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I would, and this gets to the heart of what I'm getting at. Pushing standards vs calling standards.

[tigerite]

Otherwise known as "the gap concept"..

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Ok, so I picked a poor hand to post for this "discussion."

I am really curious what your calling ranges are in this situation.

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My calling range here would be:

Any pocker pair from 77.
A9+. 8 would be read dependant and 7- would be a toss.
K10+. 9 would be an easy toss.
Any broadway

Too tight/loose?

Oh and about the actual hand, I would insta call putting villain on:

22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,A2o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo. Now, that is a pretty tight range though and he can very well have an even worse hand. But against these hands:

563,348,016 games 1.218 secs 462,518,896 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 67.3191 % 66.91% 00.41% { JcJd }
Hand 2: 32.6809 % 32.27% 00.41% { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

Easy decision.

[pooh74]

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Otherwise known as "the gap concept"..

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never heard of it...

[Melchiades]

Might be a leak in my game. But in the stars turbos I find it SB's range is pretty huge and depending on a read off course I think calling with AT+ 66+ KJ+ sounds pretty sensible. I don't have that push calculator program (eastbays tool) though. If I were to remove any hands from my range it would be the K hands. I can't see ever folding AT+ or 66+ here. Is this a leak? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[pooh74]

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Might be a leak in my game. But in the stars turbos I find it SB's range is pretty huge and depending on a read off course I think calling with AT+ 66+ KJ+ sounds pretty sensible. I don't have that push calculator program (eastbays tool) though. If I were to remove any hands from my range it would be the K hands. I can't see ever folding AT+ or 66+ here. Is this a leak? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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I think your range should vary slightly given how many left and stack sizes obviously...in the above example, like I said above (havent run any #s keep in mind) that I am hard pressed to call with 66 there, and AT if its suited cas its so close in my eyes.

AJ+ 77+ no K high nonsense.

[pooh74]

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Ok, so I picked a poor hand to post for this "discussion."

I am really curious what your calling ranges are in this situation.

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My calling range here would be:

Any pocker pair from 77.
A9+. 8 would be read dependant and 7- would be a toss.
K10+. 9 would be an easy toss.
Any broadway

Too tight/loose?

Oh and about the actual hand, I would insta call putting villain on:

22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,A2o+,KTo+,QTo+,JTo. Now, that is a pretty tight range though and he can very well have an even worse hand. But against these hands:

563,348,016 games 1.218 secs 462,518,896 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 67.3191 % 66.91% 00.41% { JcJd }
Hand 2: 32.6809 % 32.27% 00.41% { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

Easy decision.

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Man, I should tighten my pushing standards against you loosey callers...

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The reason it's so loose is because I'm putting him on a steal so that justifies that range if you ask me. However, if I where in the game I'd probably have a good read on him which would either tighten up my range or making my posted range acceptable.

[microbet]

A read makes a big difference here, but without a read I think a calling range of about 55+, ATo+, A9s+ is about right. He is pushing from SB afterall so he probably has at least a little pushbot in him. The very tightest I think you can be here is about 77+, AQo+, AJs+; at least not without a very good read on him.

[Bigwig]

Since when is 5BB not a 'shorty?'