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#21
10-18-2005, 06:44 PM
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Re: Question...
this kind of situation only really happens when your at the river with an opponent and his range of hands is still not defined enough that your call could certainly be +ev, anytime there is uncertainty like that its always going to seem +ev to make the call and when you are certain on the hand your opponent is trying to represent its going to be a clear and easy fold since the situation will seem -ev.
just my two cents. 
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#23
10-18-2005, 11:34 PM
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Re: Calling 1 bet on the river and Time weighted EV
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So, you're just now figuring out the concept of EV? [/ QUOTE ] a) stop being black b) i just learned english and am showing off my command of the language c) i figure reading this will give your mind the workout it needs during a conference call (i.e. none) d) stop being black Barron
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#24
10-19-2005, 12:43 AM
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Re: Calling 1 bet on the river and Time weighted EV
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So, you're just now figuring out the concept of EV? [/ QUOTE ] Unfortunately this is true for a lot of posters on the forum, which is why Barron's post is good.
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#25
10-19-2005, 12:47 AM
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Re: Calling 1 bet on the river and Time weighted EV
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[ QUOTE ] So, you're just now figuring out the concept of EV? [/ QUOTE ] Unfortunately this is true for a lot of posters on the forum, which is why Barron's post is good. [/ QUOTE ] his complaint, however, is that i take too many stupid words like "time weighted EV" to explain a simple concept...with the ultimate irony that BObbi posted a very good example of it in my "when can i make this big laydown" post. astro did as well a while back. he is correct, imo, and i coulda just as easily said "hey guys, ive seen a lot of you mix this concept up. stop." b/c the reason i posted this was b/c i saw multiple posts to day with the thought process along the line of "well, a call is a small fraction of a bb whereas a fold may cost the hwole pot." in any case, i already apologized to him for the hours of life i must have sucked out of him during his laborious reading of my initial post. so thats the end of it. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Barron
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#26
10-19-2005, 02:36 AM
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Re: Calling 1 bet on the river and Time weighted EV
The reason why you make borderline river calls is so people dont take shots at you in future hands.
Even most so-called weak players pickup on this sort of stuff. I think the best way to play is to try and be aware of how many tough folds you have made and start to call down the next few.
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#27
10-19-2005, 09:17 AM
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Re: Calling 1 bet on the river and Time weighted EV
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Every time you fold on the end when you had the winner is a big mistake. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't the whole point of this thread that the above statement is false? It is possible to correctly fold the best hand on the river.
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#28
10-19-2005, 11:06 AM
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Re: Calling 1 bet on the river and Time weighted EV
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[ QUOTE ] So, you're just now figuring out the concept of EV? [/ QUOTE ] a) stop being black b) i just learned english and am showing off my command of the language c) i figure reading this will give your mind the workout it needs during a conference call (i.e. none) d) stop being black Barron [/ QUOTE ] just curious, what does his skin color have to do with it?
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