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#21
10-02-2005, 06:47 AM
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Re: Please do not ask people what %s they get, we do not allow this.
Come on guys, affiliates give us a lot of valuable services in return for their cut. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#22
10-02-2005, 11:14 AM
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Re: Please do not ask people what %s they get, we do not allow this.
has anyone else noticed the irony here? Poker players getting upset because they are provided with incomplete information?
How about a nice game of chess?
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#23
10-02-2005, 04:23 PM
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Re: percentages
I am assuming I am the best salesman posting on 2+2, and your strategy is a recipe for disaster, Morgant. Just some pieces of advice:
You do not have to actively provide information about better alternatives to the customer (higher unmentionables), it is the customer's responsibility to gather these. But leaving a feeling that you are trying to keep this information from the customer when the customer actively asks, gives the customer the feeling that your offer is not good enough to face competition. Is rakeback a question of only getting highest unmentionables? No, definately not, you want to be assured that you will be paid accurate amount at the accurate time for a long future. Thus, most intelligent customers actually want an affiliate conscious enough to make a sustainable business model instead of going to the affiliate with the highest unmentionable. You can win this battle if you put forward a reasonable explanation of how you/ your affiliates make a sustainable lasting business model, not by telling the customer: "Stupid customer, I have to protect you against the other offers, since there is something you don't understand."
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#24
10-02-2005, 04:32 PM
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Re: percentages
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ok, i need to seperate myself from this. i knew this forum would be difficult to run. but i think its something that can prove very valuable to twoplustwo, its players, and my businesses. [/ QUOTE ] i appreciate your comments. this forum is brand new and i assume there will be a strong learning curve for myself and my partners. we really intend to be hands off wrt the posts. i jumped the gun when i first saw the forum and the posts in it. anyways, what i quoted above is my firm belief and i think this forum is needed here on twoplustwo.
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#25
10-02-2005, 05:31 PM
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Re: Please do not ask people what %s they get, we do not allow this.
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has anyone else noticed the irony here? Poker players getting upset because they are provided with incomplete information? How about a nice game of chess? [/ QUOTE ] Just as we would question a system of "mystery" rake where the poker room takes a non disclosed amount out of each pot, and you never know if you will pay $0.1 or $3 for a $10 pot. Rakeback is a business agreement. Full disclosure makes complete sense.
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#26
10-02-2005, 10:36 PM
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Re: Please do not ask people what %s they get, we do not allow this.
I dont see what the big deal is here? Somebody SPENDS their money to make an "affiliates forum", so in a sense this is THEIR forum. Either we live by their regulations or we dont post. Its not OUR forum, this forum has an agenda and it may be financial in some fashion, but there is little we can do about that. We didnt spend anything to make our own forum. I think this is definitely a "tough ****" situation. Its an unsaid fact that any RB deal is considered "under the table" on a Party skin. I hope nobody seriously contacted a poker site like that about rakeback...
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#27
10-02-2005, 11:03 PM
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Re: Please do not ask people what %s they get, we do not allow this.
[ QUOTE ]
I dont see what the big deal is here? Somebody SPENDS their money to make an "affiliates forum", so in a sense this is THEIR forum. Either we live by their regulations or we dont post. Its not OUR forum, this forum has an agenda and it may be financial in some fashion, but there is little we can do about that. We didnt spend anything to make our own forum. I think this is definitely a "tough ****" situation. Its an unsaid fact that any RB deal is considered "under the table" on a Party skin. I hope nobody seriously contacted a poker site like that about rakeback... [/ QUOTE ] They are of course free to delete whatever they want on their paid forum, if that is their wish. But as long as this is a rakeback forum people will probably try to talk about rakeback. I don't particularly care. I'm not shopping for rakeback and if I did I would probably wouldn't pick one that claimed I couldn't understand the advanced inner workings of rakeback.
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#28
10-02-2005, 11:09 PM
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Re: Please do not ask people what %s they get, we do not allow this.
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I don't particularly care. I'm not shopping for rakeback and if I did I would probably wouldn't pick one that claimed I couldn't understand the advanced inner workings of rakeback. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this sentiment, I wouldnt either. I suspect poker players of all people should be able to separate the wheat from the chaff and read between the lines in delicate situations such as this.
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#30
10-03-2005, 03:41 PM
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Re: percentages
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] ok, i need to seperate myself from this. i knew this forum would be difficult to run. but i think its something that can prove very valuable to twoplustwo, its players, and my businesses. [/ QUOTE ] i appreciate your comments. this forum is brand new and i assume there will be a strong learning curve for myself and my partners. we really intend to be hands off wrt the posts. i jumped the gun when i first saw the forum and the posts in it. anyways, what i quoted above is my firm belief and i think this forum is needed here on twoplustwo. [/ QUOTE ] I think there is a tremendous conflict of interest here.
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