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Old 09-30-2005, 04:36 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default Re: 77 in MP1 vs one EP limper

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OK....unknown table conditions, you limp. If you know there are some super aggressive players behind you, does that change your decision?

Do you also limp with 22-66 with one EP limper?

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depends on their agression levels...66 would be the cutoff, as 55 i think is a fold in this spot but its close...but 44 is a fold, not as close. 33 and down are mucked.

HOWEVER, if the first limper is just bad, and the people behind you are passive preflop and way way way to agressive postflop and they like to play lots of hands for cheap in position and there's more than 1 of them behind you, then i dont fold any pairs there b/c of the insane implied odds.

but, unfortunately, i just made up a perfect opponent [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]...ive never seen 1 of those people live, never mind 3 behind me.

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Old 09-30-2005, 04:37 PM
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I plead guilty to the part about loving Phil's book

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This is a massive problem.

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Old 09-30-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default question for BK and Dcifrths

if you limp after the limper with 77 how low do you go? 22?
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Old 09-30-2005, 04:42 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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if you limp after the limper with 77 how low do you go? 22?

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LINKY

what do you do with 88?

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Old 09-30-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: question for BK and Dcifrths

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if you limp after the limper with 77 how low do you go? 22?

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Depends on the rest of the table. I've been limping a little too low lately I think. Probably 44?
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Old 09-30-2005, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: question for BK and Dcifrths

While we are on the topic of limping, raising, or folding after limpers with smallish pocket pairs how do you guys play these in shorthanded tables.

6 handed, UTG or MP limps, you are CO or button with 22-66 (I presume 77+ is auto raise vs most limpers in this spot)

What's your move and why on an unknown table?

I limp after any limper in this spot with 22-44 and raise 55+. I question my play because this is somewhat proportional to raising 77 in MP1 vs an up front limper.
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Old 10-03-2005, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: question for BK and Dcifrths

This has always been a question spot for me too. I tend to fold 22-77 with just one limper in front in MP on a typical 15 or 20 table. 88/99 are raises for me here. I guess I should limp a little more? I suppose it is time for me to start adding hands back into my repetoire. When we limp 77 here, we are hoping for two more people to enter the pot (preferably limping) or we are hoping for folds. I guess the worst thing would be a raise behind, and only the limper calling.

I mean 77 is the tenth best starting hand in HE.
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Old 10-03-2005, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: question for BK and Dcifrths

In 6 handed play Ill raise 5s after just about any limper...if they are open limping in a 6max game they are doing something wrong, punish them for it.
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