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Old 09-29-2005, 04:45 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Weird set hand - 2/4 6max

You are a freak. Never sit at my table.
Edit: How likely do you think this scenario is? What is your river line?
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Old 09-29-2005, 05:07 PM
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You are a freak. Never sit at my table.
Edit: How likely do you think this scenario is? What is your river line?

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man lots of good info in this thread.

it would be funny if you pushed the river representing the flush, him holding hte AcQx thinking you are on a pure bluff and calls you with it.
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Old 09-29-2005, 05:16 PM
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it would be funny if you pushed the river representing the flush, him holding hte AcQx thinking you are on a pure bluff and calls you with it.

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Yes, that would be funny. Unfortunately, this is a tragedy and not a comedy that you are reading. But you have many of the elements correct. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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Old 09-29-2005, 05:24 PM
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Bet the turn fo sho dawg. He'll fold a lot of the time. The times he doesn't fold, check the river and decide on a plan depending on the card and how much he bets.
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:04 PM
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Bet the turn fo sho dawg. He'll fold a lot of the time. The times he doesn't fold, check the river and decide on a plan depending on the card and how much he bets.

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hi edge, you don't think he raises with the flush draw there if you bet the turn?
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:16 PM
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Bet the turn fo sho dawg. He'll fold a lot of the time. The times he doesn't fold, check the river and decide on a plan depending on the card and how much he bets.

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hi edge, you don't think he raises with everythingthere if you bet the turn?

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FYP. What's the chance that I have a T? This is so easy to move me off my hand if I bet the turn....
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: Weird set hand - 2/4 6max

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You are a freak. Never sit at my table.
Edit: How likely do you think this scenario is? What is your river line?

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I don't have any hands at 2/4 yet so I am not sure. But based on reading posts I think that it is probably pretty slim against an average 2/4 player. That's why I think you can probably safely check/fold on this river and you probably can't check/call. I just had to ammend my original statement (where I said no worse hand bets the river) because I think there is some chance that villian could bluff the river. If he is any good he would probably need a key card (Ac) in order to bluff this scary board. A bad player that bluff's too much might not.

I have no idea how likely someone would be to lay down a T on the river here so another alternative might be to try and get a laydown from a T as Amoeba suggested. I probably wouldn't have the confidence to do it so I probably still check/fold.

At 5/10 and higher where it seems people love to catch bluffs you might be able to 2 way bluff this though and induce a big call by betting the river.

FWIW, the lone A bluff is something that I have been having good success with in Omaha. It works pretty good because people are more likely to believe you have the nuts. I haven't experimented with it as much with it in hold'em yet.
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Old 09-29-2005, 07:06 PM
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Bet the turn fo sho dawg. He'll fold a lot of the time. The times he doesn't fold, check the river and decide on a plan depending on the card and how much he bets.

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hi edge, you don't think he raises with everythingthere if you bet the turn?

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FYP. What's the chance that I have a T? This is so easy to move me off my hand if I bet the turn....

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actually thinking about it again, it is possible for you to be playing TJ, T9, QT this way right?

how much does he know of your preflop raising standards?
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Old 09-29-2005, 07:59 PM
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Bet $90 on the river, fold to a raise.
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Old 09-29-2005, 09:21 PM
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Bet $90 on the river, fold to a raise.

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I bet 90 on the river, he pushed, I folded, he showed AcJx. I think this is the worst possible line, FWIW. I think check/call is better and check/fold is better. This weak blocking bet is just asking for a raise on a really scary board that I don't want to call. But I'm not sure. I think it's a tough spot with awkward stack sizes.
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