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Old 09-26-2005, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: AA, Push small edge?

I guess it's easy to miss your edge push, because we're (or I'm, at least) used to raising rockets through the roof as a normal course of action on the first two betting rounds. No need to be subtle, especially with all these callers, and even with another raiser (what could he have that's better than AA??). Jam the pot.


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Old 09-26-2005, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: AA, Push small edge?

If we're putting MP1 on a flush draw, which for all intents and purposes looks like it may be pretty accurate, then does anyone else agree with raising the non-diamond turn? If MP1 3-bets, then just check-call. MP3 has slowed down, so I think he's got KK or QQ and is playing the same way you are.

You definitely have to call the river.
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Old 09-26-2005, 05:58 AM
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Default Re: AA, Push small edge?

Wow, I don't like that river fold at all.

MP1 very likely had a lower two pair and you may have just folded the winning hand. Getting 27:1, what a shame it would be to do that for one bet. MP1 might have a set or have made the flush, but it's well worth a call as your chances of being best are pretty good.

Edit: I'm raising this for value. I can fold to a three bet.
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: AA, Push small edge?

the bigger the pot, the less ppl will need to call down.
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: AA, Push small edge?

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Edit: I'm raising this for value. I can fold to a three bet.

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I sincerely hope you don't mean the river. You still have one person to act behind you and he/she has called a LOT of bets so far to have no draw of any kind. This person concerns me. I think you would be a lot better off just calling here and going for an overcall, instead of opening the action back up for the aggressor to three bet top two and make you fold the best hand.
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: AA, Push small edge?

True, he might three bet T8. So OK, better just call.
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Old 09-26-2005, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: AA, Push small edge?

I know it doesn't really matter, but what did these guys show down? I'm pretty curious.
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Old 09-26-2005, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: AA, Push small edge?

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I know it doesn't really matter, but what did these guys show down? I'm pretty curious.

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Yeah I kinda want to know too.

So no opinions on the turn raise? I think I'd do this 100% of the time and I'm really wondering if it's the smart move.
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Old 09-26-2005, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: AA, Push small edge?

I think there's a reasonable chance you folded the best hand. I don't like this fold at all. You got top two pair (assuming no other AA out).

I'd call down from the turn, possibly kicking it up a notch there (BAM)if I'm feeling fiesty.
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Old 09-26-2005, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: AA, Push small edge?

Folding the River here might be one of the most costly errors I have ever seen. You could raise 72o UTG every single time four tabeling at 1/2 for an hour and it would be less EV- than folding this river. Just terrible...I'm sorry.
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