3 limpers, a miniraise, a caller and I have AKo on the button

Because of the poor play online in smaller buy in SNGs, you might be right. I play alot of higher buy in SNGs along with lower ones, so maybe I am more accustomed to solid play. Good players would not automatically call 90 more with 33 through 99 when sandwiched inbetween you and two other players who have shown strength. They would more than likely would fold, assuming there is a very good chance that they are going to be facing additional raises. There is a point of diminishing returns to preflop calling, no matter what pot odds you are getting. For example, if the raiser and caller both went over the top, would it then be correct for the two limpers to call if they both had pockets? I think that sandwich effect is something solid players are aware of, and think often they fold to the extra 90. I know I would let my mid pockets go in that situation.

[TheNoodleMan]

expecting this many limpers to understand the sandwich effect at a 33 is foolish, in my experience.

Often you might be right though. Whether they understand it or not, it could bite them, however. But you point is well taken -- if they do not understand that fundamental poker requires them to fold their marginal hand, then a reraise of 60 would not make sense. I suppose then to some degree it would depend if you had notes on them or some info by that point, etc.

[EnderFFX]

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I would call here.

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Oh my. Not good.

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I rarely speak in absolutes, but anything other than a push here is a definitely a major leak in a $33 SNG.

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Leak plugged, thank you downtown and 45suited.

[lacky]

just to clarify, with the extra 200+ chips in the pot that are dead (because the people that put them in have folded and can no longer win the hand) even if it is a coin flip, It's a 50/50 where you can win 200ish more than you can lose. Those are situations you look for, not aviod.

Steve

[TheNoodleMan]

I think we have covered this hand, so I'm going to post the rest of the hand history.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

SB (t925)
BB (t445)
UTG (t1120)
UTG+1 (t425)
MP1 (t710)
MP2 (t2230)
MP3 (t810)
CO (t560)
Hero (t775)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t60</font>, CO calls t60, <font color="#666666"> <font color="red"> Hero Pushes all in </font> 3 folds UTG+1 calls</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds.

Flop: (t1425) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t1425) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1425) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1425

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has 6d 7d (high card, king).
Hero has As Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins t1425. </font>

[lacky]

you need to rethink this. unless you have a very good reason to think someone is holding AA or KK, AK is a hand you really want to be all in with here. You want to see all 5 cards, and you don't want to fold to a bet on the flop by AQ that missed also. Your getting good odds, it's a clear push.

Steve

[the_joker]

Wow, all the more reason to push when people like this will call.