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Old 09-21-2005, 08:44 PM
Saborion Saborion is offline
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Default Re: 50/100 party hand I was sweated on

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It was an off the wall sort of thought that is really player dependant. I've never played in that game, and I don't pretend to know the players, but some of the 15-16 VPIP guys would bet KK on that river, get c/r, look at the third diamond and click on the fold button hard with disgust. Obviously its a long shot, and probably a dumb move, but it might have merit against the right kind of player...maybe a VPIP 9 or something would be a better candidate then a 16
lf

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Wouldn't the WSD and W$SD numbers be more accurate when deciding whether or not we should try a move like that?
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 party hand I was sweated on

if the river is a check-fold, what does that make the turn?
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:46 PM
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if the river is a check-fold, what does that make the turn?

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Dont players continuation bet AK/AQ on the turn a lot then check behind the river when they don't improve?
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:47 PM
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if the river is a check-fold, what does that make the turn?

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Dont players continuation bet AK/AQ on the turn a lot then check behind the river when they don't improve?

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Bingo.
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Old 09-21-2005, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 party hand I was sweated on

fold preflop.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 party hand I was sweated on

not sure what he's betting here that you beat. but at the same time, if you are calling the turn, i can't see why you'd fold the river.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:07 PM
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Is there any merit to betting this river?

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IMO, no.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 party hand I was sweated on

Probably. I mentioned in my first post looking at his fold to river bet % and fold to c/r%. I'm just making a vague assumption that most players that are capable of only playing 15% or their hands might also be capable of making that kind of fold.

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Old 09-21-2005, 09:47 PM
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Given his stats, I think you need to fold the turn.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: 50/100 party hand I was sweated on

Isn't this hand sort of the textbook reason that people suggest folding this hand in early position?
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