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Old 08-18-2005, 07:56 AM
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Do you think that's more probable that some QQ/JJ/A8 will call final bet than AQ/AJ miss final value bet ?


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I have only slight idea who your ex-gf was (OOT forum) but I suspect that's mean that the answer for my question is too obvious to give it ? (Or is it your love to all kind of puzzles ...)

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Old 08-18-2005, 07:59 AM
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Do you think that's more probable that some QQ/JJ/A8 will call final bet than AQ/AJ miss final value bet ?


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I hope you meet my ex-girlfriend.

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I have only slight idea who your ex-gf was (OOT forum) but I suspect that's mean that the answer for my question is too obvious to give it ? (Or is it your love to all kind of puzzles ...)

Best wishes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The brilliance behind the c/c, c/c, b/f line is that you lose the least when you're behind, make the most when you're ahead and never fold the best hand because you c/r and he 3-bet with a worse hand.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:04 AM
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Default Re: Another limit adventure - fundamentals : being dominated sucks

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Do you think that's more probable that some QQ/JJ/A8 will call final bet than AQ/AJ miss final value bet ?


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I hope you meet my ex-girlfriend.

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I have only slight idea who your ex-gf was (OOT forum) but I suspect that's mean that the answer for my question is too obvious to give it ? (Or is it your love to all kind of puzzles ...)

Best wishes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The brilliance behind the c/c, c/c, b/f line is that you lose the least when you're behind, make the most when you're ahead and never fold the best hand because you c/r and he 3-bet with a worse hand.

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Old 08-18-2005, 08:06 AM
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Default Re: Another limit adventure - fundamentals : being dominated sucks

Easy pre flop fold if you ask me. You are out of position and the game is 9-handed. Bet the flop and fold to a raise. If called on the flop, check the turn and fold to a bet. But I suck at poker, so what do I know.
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:08 AM
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: Another limit adventure - fundamentals : being dominated sucks

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The brilliance behind the c/c, c/c, b/f line is that you lose the least when you're behind, make the most when you're ahead and never fold the best hand because you c/r and he 3-bet with a worse hand.

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Yes I understand the point of this line. But it only works if B is more probable than A where :
A - (he miss his value bet with AQ or AJ) or (he decides to fire 3rd barell with QQ/JJ/A8)
B - he will call river bet with QQ/JJ/A8

Iam not sure its the case here.

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Old 08-18-2005, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: Another limit adventure - fundamentals : being dominated sucks

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The brilliance behind the c/c, c/c, b/f line is that you lose the least when you're behind, make the most when you're ahead and never fold the best hand because you c/r and he 3-bet with a worse hand.

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Yes I understand the point of this line. But it only works if B is more probable than A where :
A - (he miss his value bet with AQ or AJ) or (he decides to fire 3rd barell with QQ/JJ/A8)
B - he will call river bet with QQ/JJ/A8

Iam not sure its the case here.

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He'll call your bet with worse hands a lot. If you don't bet, he'll check behind with worse hands that would have called a bet a lot. By checking, you allow him to check behind is worse hands that would have called, but value bet you with his better hands.
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:59 AM
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im check-raising the flop

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Old 08-18-2005, 12:00 PM
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im check-raising the flop

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omg
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:08 PM
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im check-raising the flop

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omg

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