I Fold Too Much: Part 2. Jacks Out of Position

[PassiveCaller]

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Others have elaborated but I think it is probably important to drive home one point that really helped me in converting to SH play from a full ring. This game really is showdown poker in that people do much crazier and unpredictable things than then do in full ring. When given a choice between lines, I am taking the one that gets me to showdown. A free showdown raise by the villian with AK here would not be beyond the realm of possiblity in addition to pairs you beat.

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And to take it further... quoting Clarkmeister "when your plan involves folding a overpair headsup in needs changing"

[beachbum]

TAG's will often cap a steal attempt with a middle pocket pair when 3-bet by a blind that they know will 3-bet them defending with big unpaired broadways. So I don't think 88 or 77 is out of his range of hands. But neither is 66 and his turn raise could be him picking up 8 more outs with an OESD.

[Moozh]

I thought I'd bump this up after a hand I just played that was somewhat similar.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero thinks forever... and calls remembering this post.

River: (8 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Results:
SB has Tc Ts (two pair, tens and nines).
Hero has Jh Jd (two pair, jacks and nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 10 BB.

Thanks 2+2!

[baronzeus]

NH SIR!

[me454555]

This should be standard, well played