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  #21  
Old 08-08-2005, 01:06 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: The Bubble

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I think your mistake in hand 8 though led to this series of events. You got pretty unlucky though.

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I did manage to reclaim the chip lead after hand 8.
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Old 08-08-2005, 01:11 PM
11t 11t is offline
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Default Re: The Bubble

True, but imagine the lead you would have had if you didn't double that one guy up [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 08-08-2005, 01:12 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: The Bubble

I'm only going to comment on the hands I disagree with your play.

Hand 1: fold

Hand 6: I think you should read that Cxxxx knows how to play.

Hand 8: Never call here. I probably fold, but I can definately see pushing as a GREAT alternative. But never call in this situation, you are not interested in seeing a flop with the 2nd stack.

Hand 18: I'm indifferent. Folding/Calling are both fine. If you consider raising, you're likely only risking 200 chips instead of 600 (do you see why? lol).

Hand 20: This is one of those ones where you have decent odds to play any two. I usually fold bottom 50% of hands here, I really don't want to give small stack any life, and leak chips. In fact, this is a very easy fold, IMO.

Hand 21: Since you played the previous hand the way you did, I'd probably push this hand.

Hand 22: S##T Happens...

Final Comment: Durron, when playing the bigstack, you definately want to pick your battles. Restealing from the 2nd stack is one play that is good. But don't leak chips to the baby stack (as he's the most likely to go to war), and pick on the other two. Thanks for posting this HH, it was good to read other peoples play, as it makes me think about my own...

Scuba
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Old 08-08-2005, 02:02 PM
ZeroPointMachine ZeroPointMachine is offline
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Default Re: The Bubble

Hand #8 - enough said

Hand #21- I found this leak in a few of my HHs. When you take a hit to a big stack and the next hand is ugly (but clearly +EV) it is harder to pull the trigger. The gut reaction is to want to wait for a safer hand. You feel like the villian is more likely to call you, but the reality is most of the time he still can't.
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Old 08-08-2005, 02:24 PM
pooh74 pooh74 is offline
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Default Re: The Bubble

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I have been on a bad run of late. It's interesting, I'm actually getting better at having a bigger stack earlier but for some reason the part of my game I thought I was good at (the bubble) is now the part giving me the most trouble. So here is an HH of a bubble where there is absolutely no excuse for me to have finished OOTM, and yet I did. Comments on any hand is appreciated, but please give particular attention to hands 8, 18, and 20.

Hand 1:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

BB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t2220)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t3500)
Button <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t3540)
Hero (t4240)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4240</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Final Pot: t4315

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins t4315. </font>

Hand 2:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

SB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1795)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t3475)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t3515)
Hero (t4715)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4715</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t4790

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins t4790. </font>

Hand 3:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

Button <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1570)
SB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t3050)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t3490)
Hero (t5390)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t5390</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t5465

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins t5465. </font>

Hand 4:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1545)
Button <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t2825)
SB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t3065)
Hero (t6065)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> raises to t1400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Final Pot: t1475

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Axxxx wins t1475. </font>

Hand 5:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

BB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1520)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t2800)
Button <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t3540)
Hero (t5640)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t5640</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Final Pot: t5715

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins t5715. </font>

Hand 6:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

SB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1095)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t2775)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t3515)
Hero (t6115)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> raises to t1070</font>, BB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> calls t670.

Flop: (t1815) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t1815) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1815) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1815

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Jxxxx has 6h 6d (two pair, sixes and fives).
Cxxxx has 3h 2d (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Jxxxx wins t1815. </font>

Hand 7:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

Button <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t2240)
SB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t1680)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t3490)
Hero (t6090)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t6090</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t6165

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins t6165. </font>

Hand 8:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t2215)
Button <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t1455)
SB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t3065)
Hero (t6765)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> raises to t800</font>, Hero calls t400.

Flop: (t1275) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Axxxx bets t1200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t5940</font>, Axxxx calls t1040 (All-In).

Turn: (t9455) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t9455) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t9455

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Axxxx has Qc Js (one pair, jacks).
Hero has 5d Td (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Axxxx wins t5755. Hero wins t3700. </font>

Hand 9:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

BB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t2190)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t1430)
Button <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t6180)
Hero (t3700)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t100

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Jxxxx wins t100. </font>

Hand 10:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

SB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t2465)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t1405)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t6155)
Hero (t3475)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> calls t400, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3475</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> folds.

Final Pot: t3950

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins t3950. </font>

Hand 11:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) converter

Button <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t2240)
SB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t980)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t5730)
Hero (t4550)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> raises to t955</font>, BB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> calls t555.

Flop: (t1585) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t1585) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1585) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1585

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Axxxx has Qd 9d (two pair, queens and sixes).
Cxxxx has Ah Qs (two pair, queens and sixes).
Outcome: Cxxxx wins t1585. </font>

Hand 12:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t2215)
Button <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t2010)
SB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t4750)
Hero (t4525)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t200

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins t200. </font>

Hand 13:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

BB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t2165)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t1960)
Button <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t4400)
Hero (t4975)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4975</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Final Pot: t5125

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Hero wins t5125. </font>

Hand 14:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

SB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1515)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t1910)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t4350)
Hero (t5725)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> raises to t1850</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t2000

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Axxxx wins t2000. </font>

Hand 15:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

Button <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1165)
SB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t1260)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t5400)
Hero (t5675)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t200

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Axxxx wins t200. </font>

Hand 16:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1115)
Button <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t910)
SB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t5850)
Hero (t5625)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> raises to t860</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t260.

Flop: (t1270) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t1270) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1270) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1270

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Cxxxx has 6d As (one pair, kings).
Hero has 8h Tc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Cxxxx wins t1270. </font>

Hand 17:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

BB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1065)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t2220)
Button <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t5500)
Hero (t4715)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> raises to t1250</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t1400

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Cxxxx wins t1400. </font>

Hand 18:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

SB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t415)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t3270)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t5450)
Hero (t4365)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t600, SB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> completes t65 (All-In), BB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> checks.

Flop: (t1415) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Cxxxx checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t1415) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Cxxxx checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1415) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Cxxxx checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t1415

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Jxxxx has 9d Ah (four of a kind, aces).
Cxxxx has Ks Jh (three of a kind, aces).
Hero has 9h 8d (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Cxxxx wins t1020. Jxxxx wins t395. </font>

Hand 19:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

Button <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1295)
SB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t3090)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t5400)
Hero (t3715)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t200

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Axxxx wins t200. </font>

Hand 20:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1245)
Button <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t2740)
SB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t5850)
Hero (t3665)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> raises to t1250</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Final Pot: t1400

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Axxxx wins t1400. </font>

Hand 20:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

BB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t1195)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t2690)
Button <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t6600)
Hero (t3015)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1200</font>, BB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> calls t545 (All-In).

Flop: (t1895) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t1895) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1895) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1895

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Jxxxx has 6s Ah (high card, ace).
Hero has 5h 7c (high card, king).
Outcome: Jxxxx wins t1290. Hero wins t605. </font>

Hand 21:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

SB <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t2490)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t2640)
UTG <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t6550)
Hero (t1820)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t200

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
No showdown. Cxxxx wins t200. </font>

Hand 22:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) converter

Button <font color="#A500AF">(Jxxxx)</font> (t2140)
SB <font color="#A500AF">(Cxxxx)</font> (t3090)
BB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> (t6500)
Hero (t1770)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1720</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB <font color="#A500AF">(Axxxx)</font> calls t1120.

Flop: (t2990) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t2990) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t2990) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2990

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Axxxx has Ac Qd (high card, ace).
Hero has 9c As (high card, ace).
Outcome: Axxxx wins t2990. </font>

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Durron...I havent read all of the replies so ignore this if it has been discussed and/or is obvious.

You're very agressive play at the beginning was dictated a lot by your premium holdings...but the other players had no chance to find out. The first hand you show down is the 5T and I liked the reraise all-in, but remember, now your opponents know you could be raising with ANYTHING if you reraised with 5T...they dont know or understand what is happening.

Once that play occurs, you have to lay off a little and be more selectively aggressive.

The perception of you was key here...
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