What is the deal with Daniel Negreanu?

[TransientR]

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Daniel is awesome, one of my favorite players - but he did sound very whiny in this month's CardPlayer blaming his loss on the 90-second clock. I'm sorry but I don't believe a few more minutes would have magically gotten him a tell on Lindgren. He is good for the game and I like him but that article sounded like sour grapes.

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The great majority of poker players can't help but whine when the cards are kicking em in the ass. Daniel is just showing he is not immune to the syndrome.

Any one who plays a lot knows that when the bad beats start swarming like locusts, it is hard not to feel cursed by the poker gods [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Frank

[Rushmore]

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variance, it's not like he's going broke. as others were saying, I guess 2 final tables aren't enough for some people.

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Think about it--if I had two WPT FT's this year in limited entries, I'd have a hard time not thinking I had the damned game all figured out.

[Eegs]

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C'mon. After all, it's coming from a guy who started a thread "Where's the worst place to get a boner?" [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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And you didn't provide a link, shame on you.

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...;sb=5&o=14

I can see what you are saying somewhat. Last year, he was WSOP player of the year and Cardplayer player of the year. This year he made 0 WSOP final tables and only cashed like 2-3 times. But so what, he's making money doing STACKED and I'm sure Wynn is paying him a good amount to be their poker ambassador so he's not hurting.

[DesertCat]

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why are you so defensive to him? lets go over what you just linked
03-Jul-05 $ 3,000 Limit Hold'em
36th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2005, Las Vegas 22nd $ 6,725
11-Jun-05 $ 2,000 Limit Hold'em
36th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2005, Las Vegas 36th $ 3,665
25-Feb-05 Professional Poker Tournament
2005 L.A. Poker Classic, Los Angeles 3rd $ 60,000
24-Jan-05 $ 10,000 World Poker Open Championship Event - No Limit Hold'em
The Sixth Annual Jack Binion World Poker Open, Tunica 3rd $ 384,322
05-Jan-05 $ 7,800 WPT Main Event - No Limit Hold'em
2005 PokerStars Caribbean Adventure, Paradise Island 75th $ 11,600

he made a little over 10k in the entire WSOP. he had one 300k+ finish and his next highest was $60k. He has made about $465,000 in tourney winnings. Around the same time last year he had over 1.5 million in winnings not to mention his two WPT wins that would come later in sept. and dec.

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If I was having a year this bad I'd shoot myself ...

... full of heroin! Then I'd run around and shout "I'm rich, biatch!"

[TimTimSalabim]

Variance is a bitch.

[Edge34]

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A top player has a downswing and all of a sudden he's fallen off. Bad runs happen, Eegs.

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I wish I could have a downswing like everybody's saying Negreanu is having...

He didn't make a ton of money in the WSOP this year...but he's won over 400 grand just in tournies, not even counting his cash play. Plus, look at those tourney finishes, he still went pretty deep in them, things like 36th aren't bad when fields just keep getting bigger and bigger.

[BarronVangorToth]

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I wish I could have a downswing like everybody's saying Negreanu is having...


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It's sort of like when the Yankees don't win the World Series EVERY year - the dynasty is dying!

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

[el kang]

obviously, DN is not having the same kind of year as last. But, who could?? I guess Tuan Lee is pretty close.

Meanwhile, almost any player would kill to have Daniel's "bad year". He's still up +$213K with a profit of $4.1K/tournament for 2005. And this is outside of his bread and butter cash games - his regular hourly is around $4K (just 80 hrs of play) and with the challenges running well he's over $7K I believe. C'mon! Can you seriously imagine that kind of win rate and complain?

Any debate about DN's overextension or whatever is all just speculative and for the far greater part dissecting his play comes up empty. Everyone seems to have thoughts on this but variance seems to be the most reasonable answer. Outside of this I personally believe he is a bit overextended. But, really this is just a guess. But, the OP has some weird (ie.. very relative) ideas on judging a poker players performance.

[Joseph Busti]

According to the results he posts on his website he is up $1,175,912 so far this year.