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Old 08-04-2005, 03:15 PM
Andrew Fletcher Andrew Fletcher is offline
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Default Re: What would Harrington do?

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Oops. Ok, now it has a little bit of vitality. I didn't realize he was in the BB. Then SnG makes some sense. Any other position, I say fold.
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Old 08-04-2005, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: What would Harrington do?

this is completely not text book.
Text book is when the initial raiser has no option but to call a reraise, thus you have next to no folding equity.
this is not such a case here as the initial raiser would only be getting 1.6-1 to call here.
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Old 08-04-2005, 05:26 PM
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this is completely not text book.
Text book is when the initial raiser has no option but to call a reraise, thus you have next to no folding equity.
this is not such a case here as the initial raiser would only be getting 1.6-1 to call here.

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i agree, it's not perfectly textbook, but you are very likely going to get called by an UTG raiser getting 1.6. At least the sng gives you some FE.
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Old 08-04-2005, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: What would Harrington do?

1. WWHD if it was sufficien chips for blinds(book situation is not for bb)

2. Please explain stop-n-go and why its the way to go.

3. What if it was the same situation at a 30+3.
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Old 08-05-2005, 01:41 AM
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Default Re: What would Harrington do?

so how about you just fold in the first place.
u just admitted UTG probably has a big hand.
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Old 08-05-2005, 08:40 AM
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1. WWHD if it was sufficien chips for blinds(book situation is not for bb)

2. Please explain stop-n-go and why its the way to go.

3. What if it was the same situation at a 30+3.

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1. Havn't gotten HoH2 yet (i'm hoping it will solve my MTT monkey)
2. Stop-n-go, is to call and then push on the flop, you get all your money in and and hand that would normally have to call your all-in preflop, now can fold. (like if Villain had TT and the flop comes KJ2). Gives you some fold equity when you normally wouldn't have any.
3. I don't think strategy really changes drastically.. at most all you can do is put the villain on a slightly wider range of hands, which would make you more likely to push. But still no definite answer i dont think.

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Anyway, i think i normally Stop-n-Go here, but sometimes push. Barely, if ever folding.
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:22 PM
Beavis68 Beavis68 is offline
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While your stack is below average, you aren't in desperate mode here w/12x. When I see utg raises my AQ shrivels up.

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I agree with this, especially since there are no antes on Party. I would push a limper, but the UTG+1 would have to be a known bad player for me to push here. (Although I have pushed with far worse plenty of times)
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:44 PM
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so how about you just fold in the first place.
u just admitted UTG probably has a big hand.

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where did i say that? i simply said that he's not likely to fold preflop getting 1.6. After the flop w/ a few overcards to a mid pair or a ragged flop w/ overcards may make him think he needs more than that to call.

i don't hate a fold here, but I think that this is a good enough opportunity to go with given the stacks.
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: What would Harrington do?

Seems like as good a time as ever to introduce my new line of T-shirts [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]



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Old 08-05-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: What would Harrington do?

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this is completely not text book.
Text book is when the initial raiser has no option but to call a reraise, thus you have next to no folding equity.
this is not such a case here as the initial raiser would only be getting 1.6-1 to call here.

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i agree, it's not perfectly textbook, but you are very likely going to get called by an UTG raiser getting 1.6. At least the sng gives you some FE.

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villain is utg+1 at an 8-handed table. that's like MP1 at a full table. he doesn't need to be that strong.

a stop and go is T1400 into a T975 pot. seems a little overboard. i think a push is best, but i prefer calling and making a decision on the flop to calling and pushing any flop.
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