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Old 07-27-2005, 02:55 AM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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I push and I don't even think about it.

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edit: I push and am practically begging for the BB to 'look me up.'

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This certainly is not what you want....on the bubble with anyone moderately short you almost never want to be 'looked up.'

However, the good news is he won't look you up too often and with your hand you will be ahead of just about anything he'll look you up anyway with which makes it a very, very, very, very, very easy push.

Yugoslav
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Old 07-27-2005, 02:56 AM
morgan180 morgan180 is offline
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I push and I don't even think about it.

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edit: I push and am practically begging for the BB to 'look me up.'

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This certainly is not what you want....on the bubble with anyone moderately short you almost never want to be 'looked up.'

However, the good news is he won't look you up too often and with your hand you will be ahead of just about anything he'll look you up anyway with which makes it a very, very, very, very, very easy push.

Yugoslav

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see my post further down - curtains already 'set me straight' [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-27-2005, 02:57 AM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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see my post further down - curtains already 'set me straight' [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Yes...I see now it looks like you set yourself straight....much better than just taking curtains word for anything, [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

Mainly b/c you won't be able to call him up every time you're on the bubble in a STT.

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Old 07-27-2005, 03:34 AM
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I love losing big pots with AK.

I push.
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:54 AM
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It's a no brainer push for me
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:57 AM
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How can you not push AK here? I dont see an option for anything else. Push it.
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:48 AM
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I would move allin and I don't even consider any other option here.

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I posted this hand because I was called with TT. And the thought went through my mind, as I was sitting on the sidelines, "did I need to be in this pot?" At first glance, I thought "push" just like all the noob post responses I got in this thread.

It's interesting to note, if shorty had just one chip, I'd bet the majority response would be complete or fold. Anyway, in retrospect, this looks like a better hand/opportunity to try and trap with rather than just push monkey it.

Flame away....
Scuba
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Old 07-27-2005, 11:58 AM
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DO NOT TRAP WITH AK HERE
You need to see the whole board, and frankly, you don't even want to have to go to a showdown anyway. If you don't take my advice, you'll start trapping in retarded spots and eventually you'll pull something like this (I'm ashamed to even post this and no, I don't want commentary as I already knnow its FPS gone wild)

It's a disease... trust me. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) converter

UTG (t795)
UTG+1 (t1015)
MP1 (t1745)
MP2 (t1480)
MP3 (t978)
Hero (t955)
Button (t1675)
SB (t589)
BB (t768)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t200, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t550) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t755 (All-In)</font>, MP2 calls t555.

Turn: (t2060) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t2060) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2060

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP2 has 3h 4h (flush, jack high).
Hero has Ad Ks (one pair, aces).
Outcome: MP2 wins t2060. </font>
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Old 07-27-2005, 12:01 PM
reecelights reecelights is offline
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Default Re: Bubble AK hand

Just curious Scuba...if you don't push your options are

Complete and he raises
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Raise and he comes over the top thinking you are stealing
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Raise, he calls then comes over the top with one or zero overcards on the flop

What do you do when he raises?
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Old 07-27-2005, 03:23 PM
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Scuba this was a clear allin, don't be results oriented.
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