playing a rock?

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He's not tricky. He's like cashback on Discover card, only better.

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This makes me wish 2+2 allowed signatures to be displayed.

[tiltaholic]

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Yuck. This is closer to a preflop fold than anything else.

-DeathDonkey

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This is closer to a preflop 3-bet than it is to a preflop fold.

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No. If he's got ~200 hands on this guy (which he mentioned) it's closer to a preflop fold than a 3-bet and it's an easy fold if you're routinely trying to outplay tightttttttt aggressive players on flops like this.

Basically, the Donkey is correct on this one.

Rob

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doh.

i call too much out of the blinds it seems.

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Don't get me wrong. I think the preflop call is fine here. But I think the intent of outplaying a player who has a very narrow range in general here on this flop is pretty bad.

Rob

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oh, ok, i see what you are saying. i thought you were referring to pf.

i'm trying to get a handle on flop textures on which to "outplay" opponents...i may have overestimated the my chances here.

if he's more of a "by the book" 16/9 tag, then i'd likely 3-bet pf and lead that flop (would be nice if i had one of my suit though)

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hi all
thanks for the comments.
he folded to the turn bet.
at the time, i thought i picked off a pot with my snazzy read...but maybe i just got lucky instead.

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I fold this flop with only my two overcards and the wheel draw. I think you are only rarely ahead and might be behind to highPP,AK, AQ. Even if you're overcard outs were completely good (which they aren't) you are only getting 7:1 (assuming CO doesn't call) which is not enough to call or raise this.