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Old 07-19-2005, 05:33 AM
HesseJam HesseJam is offline
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Default Re: $55 bubble - AK in SB facing 2 pushes

Bonus question: All you three call and BB looks down and finds AA. What should he do? This should be too easy for Curtains to answer, so he is not elligible.
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Old 07-19-2005, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: $55 bubble - AK in SB facing 2 pushes


Cmon very obvious call for the BB. If he had less chips than UTG then i have to do some math, I suspect it's a clear fold then.
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Old 07-19-2005, 05:43 AM
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Default Re: $55 bubble - AK in SB facing 2 pushes

I edited too late. Damn. Sure it is obvious. He would be about 60% against 3 random hands and maybe even more if you tightened the ranges. So he would get about $600
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Old 07-19-2005, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: $55 bubble - AK in SB facing 2 pushes


Well its mainly obvious because one player is shorter stacked. I suspect its maybe +ev to fold otherwise, because you lock up 2nd most of time, and are still 25% to get first place.
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Old 07-19-2005, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: $55 bubble - AK in SB facing 2 pushes

This is a pretty clear fold imo, remember, any time that there are two people all in on the bubble, the ones that benefit are the ones who are not involved in the hand.
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: $55 bubble - AK in SB facing 2 pushes

This is partially correct. Your EV rises when two others go all-in at the bubble. But your EV might go up even more if you call in certain situations.
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: $55 bubble - AK in SB facing 2 pushes

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This is a pretty clear fold imo

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I love hands where people I respect are at odds over how to play a hand. Clear call.... Clear fold....

Well, I pushed:

#Game No : 2387252021
***** Hand History for Game 2387252021 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14059960 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, July 18, 23:07:42 EDT 2005
Table Table 22418 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: drewf ( $2582 )
Seat 9: Wormtonge ( $2285 )
Seat 2: Bati99 ( $2230 )
Seat 7: xyrophobic ( $2903 )
Trny:14059960 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xyrophobic [ Ks Ad ]
Bati99 is all-In [2230]
drewf is all-In [2582]
xyrophobic is all-In [2753]
Wormtonge folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 5h, Tc ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 3h ]
Bati99 shows [ 5c, 5s ] three of a kind, fives.
drewf shows [ Ts, Th ] three of a kind, tens.
xyrophobic shows [ Ks, Ad ] high card ace.
xyrophobic wins 321 chips from side pot #2 with high card ace.
drewf wins 704 chips from side pot #1 with three of a kind, tens.
drewf wins 6990 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, tens.
Bati99 finished in fourth place.
Bati99 has left the table.

Blah blah pokar is pokar.
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: $55 bubble - AK in SB facing 2 pushes

This is exactly why AK isn't 45% to win, you gotta dodge 4 outs which basically garuntee you losing the hand.
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: $55 bubble - AK in SB facing 2 pushes


Okay but you obviously want to call against both hands. This is a really brainless call IMO with AKo, and I can see no possible justification for folding. Of course if we had less chips than the pushers it's an obvious fold.
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: $55 bubble - AK in SB facing 2 pushes

I'd call. You have BOTH covered, so the only real nightmare scenario is if they both chop the pot and you lose. That's a pretty remote possibility without you also get a piece of the pot. Additionally, there's a good chance that you are actually ahead of both.
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