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Old 07-15-2005, 01:34 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: Live hand against a weak tight

id just like to comment that baron posted something really arrogant and deleted it to avoid embarrassment when i replied with my comment and i thought i needed to post this to protect my name since it appears i came off extremely harsh. his actual post was:

"nope youre wrong. the 9 helped the opponent here 100% of the time."


he also editted another post of his which was, "I think you're wrong but I could be wrong here." It was editted to show openmindedness in comparison to its original counterpart, which i believe was just a firm "I think you're wrong here."
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Live hand against a weak tight

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id just like to comment that baron posted something really arrogant and deleted it to avoid embarrassment when i replied with my comment and i thought i needed to post this to protect my name since it appears i came off rather harsh. his post was something to the effect of:

"nope youre wrong. the 9 helped the opponent here 100% of the time."


and IIRC the post "I think you're wrong but I could be wrong here." was editted to show openmindedness in comparison to its original counterpart, which i believe was just a firm "I think you're wrong here."

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The reason I posted that is because your original post is arrogant and obnoxious. You make a statement like "horrible river fold" and not only don't explain it but make it sound like I'm a dumbass and anyone with any sense should understand it.

Why don't you make some helpful posts instead of trolling around like a dumb [censored]?

And I edited it because I thought I was right originally but people (NOT YOU) gave me very good reasons as to why my thoughts were wrong.

You have contributed nothing to this thread. Thank you.
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Live hand against a weak tight

my comment "horrendous river fold" seems to come off harsh and i didnt mean to belittle you with that statement, but the fold truly is horrendous. we all make mistakes but we need to be corrected especially when you post something like this in the forum.

im sorry that im not posting replies to threads detailing my viewpoints the way that some other members do. im just not going to take the time to do that. i still feel that my advice is valuable and my comments should be helping players whether you like what youre hearing or not.

im not posting in small stakes for my own benefit so if you people dont want me posting my advice here then i will gladly leave.
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:48 PM
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my comment "horrendous river fold" seems to come off harsh and i didnt mean to belittle you with that statement, but the fold truly is horrendous. we all make mistakes but we need to be corrected especially when you post something like this in the forum.

im sorry that im not posting replies to threads detailing my viewpoints the way that some other members do. im just not going to take the time to do that. i still feel that my advice is valuable and my comments should be helping players whether you like what youre hearing or not.

im not posting in small stakes for my own benefit so if you people dont want me posting my advice here then i will gladly leave.

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Well I do appreciate your advice and through a lot of advice I saw that this was a bad fold. But it doesn't help me to say "bad fold" because I need to know why. I think I should have called in this situation because I'm splitting with KQ a good amount of the time in a HUGE pot--and someone made that clear in his post.


As a side question, about how big/small should this pot be to make a fold here "more" correct than calling?
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:05 PM
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As a side question, about how big/small should this pot be to make a fold here "more" correct than calling?

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now that is a really good question, something not asked enough. its tough to conclude, especially since you appear to have gotten a live read. if it was an internet hand i think id be able to give you a better figure. i think its reasonable to fold here if the pot was 10BBs.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:29 PM
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Default Re: Live hand against a weak tight

I don't know guy, he could have had like some post said, AK, QJ or some holding like that. You made two pair on the flop and he raised the turn, a re-raise may have been a strong play because you were heads up and you could have gained more info. I don't like the river fold to because it was one bet to you and you only have to be right maybe 30% of the time to justify a call. If you called and you were wrong, you loose one bet. If you called and you were right, you win 14BB. either way, you can't fold to one river bet in such a big pot. Paying off other people is just part of a small stakes game. That's my opinion. [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:39 PM
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its not 30% of the time, its about 7% of the time..
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:58 PM
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im not posting in small stakes for my own benefit so if you people dont want me posting my advice here then i will gladly leave.

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I definitely think your SS posts have value. I have learned from them. Thanks.
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