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Old 07-11-2005, 04:52 AM
zephed zephed is offline
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Default Re: I am consistently fold hands like this..

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I don't think you need to showdown here just because you call on the flop getting at least 6:1.

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The point is that 6:1 is NOT enough to call for this hand if you're hoping to improve. We can only call profitably if we think we're ahead. You are making a -EV call if are not planning to show this down. And since almost every turn card is a scare card, we can never be sure that our hand didn't just get beaten.

So if we call the flop, we have to show this down, or we're just throwing money away on the flop. You might as well pick up a 50 cent piece and throw it away every time you do it. Sure, it's "only 1 more SB", but -EV is -EV. This will cost you money in the long run. That's why folding is correct against a medium sized field like this.

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You know we have a gutshot draw too right?

It's pretty damn close if you assume it will not get raised behind you.

I'd probably fold just because of the players behind me left to act. EDIT: + the possibility of a split.
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:39 AM
silkyslim silkyslim is offline
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Default Re: I am consistently fold hands like this..

sb might be drawing to a straight larger than yours, or have caught a piece of his A-rag, or have overs to beat you if you do in fact have the best hand. Same with any other callers. The pot is not big enough to call or raise to protect IMO.
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