The Stupidest Intellectual (re: Chomsky and His Ideas) - Page 3

brad · #21 02-14-2003, 07:14 PM

'Our attackers were the entire group called al Qaeda--and those who died attacking us were merely their emissaries. '

i would like to see some support for that statement.

p.s. bin laden was blamed like 2 hours after the attack.

MMMMMM · #22 02-14-2003, 07:17 PM

Elvis did it. Al Qaeda is just jealous he beat them to it--that's why they are calling on Muslims to kill and plunder Americans wherever they find them. It's all just empty talk and Elvis is the real threat.

brad · #23 02-14-2003, 07:21 PM

im not saying i dont believe it im just saying what is the evidence?

this is a vital question in spotting propaganda.

im being serious.

add to that the fact that one or more bin laden videos the administration pointed to as evidence were shown to be fakes and thats partly why i bring it up.

i mean dont get mad at me if youre brain kind of locks up because you cant reconcile propaganda with facts you can find.

Jimbo · #24 02-14-2003, 07:27 PM

So Brad it is OK for you to use propaganda like this : "add to that the fact that one or more bin laden videos the administration pointed to as evidence were shown to be fakes and thats partly why i bring it up. that you provide to disprove someone else using so called propaganda? Kinda ironic huh?

brad · #25 02-14-2003, 07:31 PM

well if you catch someone in a lie and use that to label them untrustworthy i dont think thats unreasonable?

do you agree bin laden video(s) was shown to be fake? do u agree administration was using it to implicate bin laden?

do u know of any other evidence vs. bin laden?

andyfox · #26 02-14-2003, 07:44 PM

I didn't know the Bin Laden tape was fake. Is this the one where he talks about how successful the 9/11 operation was?

brad · #27 02-14-2003, 07:48 PM

i cant keep up with all of it but heres a link for one tape at least.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=968705899037

http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_ale...02_terror.html

(second one is archive of first)

ive heard or read a lot more and it all seems to be a bunch of bs at least for the tapes. (like one video with the 'fat bin laden' with the big nose who doesnt even look like bin laden)

MMMMMM · #28 02-14-2003, 09:19 PM

It's not that I'm mad, I was trying to be half-funny and half-sardonic (guess I need to work on that).

I think it's kinda obvious who did it, and moreover I think that even if al Qaeda didn't do it, for everything else they've done and called on Muslims to do against us we should still have gone after them. In other words I'm pretty sure they did it, but they would need to be wiped out even if 9/11 had never happened.

brad · #29 02-14-2003, 09:39 PM

so you admit you have no specific reason to think al kida did 9-11?

then how do u think the thought got into your head?

my point is that that is the nature of propaganda. some things are so 'obvious' that they cant be 'questioned'.

dont you think its 'healthy' to think about things like this?

MMMMMM · #30 02-14-2003, 10:40 PM

NO, I don't say there are no specific reasons I think al Qaeda did it. Sure it's healthy to think things through. But sometimes its a waste of time to rehash things that wouldn't change anything anyway. Al Qaeda has orchestrated other attacks--they call for more attacks against us--wipe them out ASAP, that's the most practical thing to do.