fold KAs Post Flop

[aK13]

I think folding/calling are approximately equal EV, but I like calling personally.

[kapw7]

Good fold. Overcards are not as good as they look when multihanded. It is very likely to be drawing dead against A7/A4/KQ etc. No way you have 6 outs here.

[Piz0wn0reD!!!!!!]

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why are you checking the turn just because a Q came out? you need to bet. call a rerasie if one comes, even though i doubt it would happen.



Why would you do that?


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well, first off, i really doubt they would reraise, they will almost always fold, or rarely even call at this level.


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this is untrue

[xenthebrain]

I fold the turn.

No way you are ahead here.
You might be reverse dominated by A7 or whatever.
The clubs may be tainted.

With top pair you aren't drawing somewhere near the nuts and you cannot go bonkers on the river.
There was no heavy action. You don't get great implied odds, maybe 1 BB.

In my opinion you cannot count more than 4 outs here, and even with implied odds, this is a fold.
It's pretty close though.

[mdplayah]

I love overcard chasers. It keeps the pot nice and big for when i flop my big hands!

seriously though, log onto ultimate bet tonight and just "watch" the $100-200 tables. you might change your opinion about how many outs you have in this hand. or you might not... or you might not even care....

i also thought of another great reason to discount: ace overcards are very dangerous (moreso than kings but this king is also crappy cause of the queen.) the danger is again in the counterfeit. we all know than these microfish will play any ace, even offsuited A-3 without even thinking about it! For some reason they don't play offsuited K-3 as much. With kings, they would prefer a K-3 suited as if NOW it's playable! love that!

[Piz0wn0reD!!!!!!]

$100-$200 and .50/1 have little in common.

[mdplayah]

true. but one of the major differences at those limits is that you have less people seeing the flop, therefore more outs (lower discount), yet they are STILL folding overcards.

not that anyone's reading this thread anymore anyway though.

[Piz0wn0reD!!!!!!]

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...but one of the major differences at those limits is that you have less people seeing the flop, therefore more outs...

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so what is your point? they are different games, which call for different strategies.

[Guthrie]

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why are you checking the turn just because a Q came out? you need to bet. call a rerasie if one comes, even though i doubt it would happen.



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well, first off, i really doubt they would reraise, they will almost always fold, or rarely even call at this level.


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this is so untrue

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[newfant]

I like a call here. You may still be ahead of the bettor and the caller.