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Old 07-06-2005, 11:25 PM
Triumph36 Triumph36 is offline
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Maybe Francona wants a pinch-runner for the late innings, and fans realize that. Posednik would bring a lot more to the roster than the other guys (Crawford excepted), since those guys won't get in the game. Ok, that's not it, but honestly, Posednik is just as exciting as any of these guys. Does anyone really want to see a lumbering DH like Matt Stairs?

And honestly, what non Yankees fan is voting for Matsui or Jeter? Why do people have the impression that people are voting based on who deserves it?

And also, it's unsurprising to me that the 2+2 Sports Forum would worship OPS. Posednik's stolen bases make up for his lack of slugging percentage. This may be fallacious, but subtract his 9 caught stealings and that's 98 times on base with what is effectively 55 'doubles'. Not bad.
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:26 PM
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Stolen bases are cool.
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Old 07-07-2005, 01:26 AM
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"Posednik's stolen bases make up for his lack of slugging percentage. This may be fallacious, but subtract his 9 caught stealings and that's 98 times on base with what is effectively 55 'doubles'. Not bad.'

41 stolen bases, 9 caught stealings. That adds 32 "bases" to his total bases, giving him an "effective" slugging percentage of .456. (Of course a single plus a stolen base does not drive is not as valuable as a double.) Subtracting the 9 caught stealings gives him an "effective" on-base percentage of .304. So an "effective" OPS of .760.

Jeter, by comparison, using the same method, has an "effective" OPS of .864; Matsui .846.

But you're right, Podsednick would bring more to the roster in that he could be used as a stolen base expert in the late innings or when otherwise needed.
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Old 07-07-2005, 01:45 AM
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He has been a huge part in turning the White Sox around this year. I highly doubt that is the reason most fans (other than White Sox fans) voted for him but that is reason enough for him to make it.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:19 AM
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He has been a huge part in turning the White Sox around this year. I highly doubt that is the reason most fans (other than White Sox fans) voted for him but that is reason enough for him to make it.

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Yeah, Scotty's been a large reason for the downward trend in the RS of the White Sox.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:25 AM
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I never said SB's were super-important. But when you've got a 16SB lead on the next closest guy, and you have an 82% SB success rate, then they start to become very valuable.

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5.38 runs, give or take... 1.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:36 AM
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He has been a huge part in turning the White Sox around this year. I highly doubt that is the reason most fans (other than White Sox fans) voted for him but that is reason enough for him to make it.

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Yeah, Scotty's been a large reason for the downward trend in the RS of the White Sox.

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He has helped us get a lot of early runs which IMO is big for the pitchers to get that early lead.
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:03 AM
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He has been a huge part in turning the White Sox around this year. I highly doubt that is the reason most fans (other than White Sox fans) voted for him but that is reason enough for him to make it.

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Yeah, Scotty's been a large reason for the downward trend in the RS of the White Sox.

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He has helped us get a lot of early runs which IMO is big for the pitchers to get that early lead.

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So you're saying that he's the reason Mark Buehrle has a 2.58 ERA? Because that's the only way he's helping this team.
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:15 AM
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God you're ignorant.
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Old 07-07-2005, 09:21 AM
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He has been a huge part in turning the White Sox around this year

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The stat geeks will never understand his importance. He totally changes and pressures opposing defenses and pitchers and actually takes control of the game when he gets on base. He brings several key intangibles with his speed and with his attitude. Team chemistry and attitude are critical to any winning team but these things don't show up in boxscores, just the win column.
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