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Old 07-03-2005, 10:56 PM
elindauer elindauer is offline
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Default Re: Very Passive w/ KK (Party 30)

Why didn't you bet the river? All the diamonds are dead. It's way too risky to check here, especially since, given your description, you can't be confident that he will pay off if you do get to check-raise. Bet the river.

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Old 07-03-2005, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: Very Passive w/ KK (Party 30)

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what actual hands do you guys think he checks behind that would call a bet?

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Pretty much everything.

[/ QUOTE ]i completely disagree. sometimes it sucks to checkcheckcheck the nuts, but in this hand i dont thing a single decision was poor. well played, IMO.

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You didn't actually say anything of value, unless you consider "I like it" to be valuable. Why do you like it? Considering that the button did in fact check behind, it would seem that the burden of proof is on you, no?


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Old 07-03-2005, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: Very Passive w/ KK (Party 30)

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Please explain why a semi-bluff flop raise is a bad thing?

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It might be reasonable, if the hero held a hand to which the term "semi-bluff" might apply. I hope you don't think that you're going to get a better hand than KK to fold.

Since button capped, and the flop hit most of the pairs under us, it's hard to imagine how we can be ahead. The only hand we beat is AK, and we can't make that fold. Out of position, a check-raise doesn't get us any information, and gets money in with the worst of it.

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Old 07-03-2005, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: Very Passive w/ KK (Party 30)

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I think bet turn, bet river regardless of diamond as long as board doesn't get ugly.

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Wha?! You are facing a cap from a reasonable opponent and the board is QJT. Isn't the board scary enough already?!

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Old 07-03-2005, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: Very Passive w/ KK (Party 30)

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Bet the river.

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I think the idea here relates to clarkmeister's: if he bets this river, any non-diamond hand his opponent will fold...

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lol. Have you ever played poker before? I don't see how anyone that has played a significant number of hands at partypoker can say with a straight face that only a diamond will call this river.

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