J4s blind defense

[DBowling]

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especially the idea that on the flop you're going to make a terrible call to attempt to take a shot at the turn.

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there is a small chance i am ahead. he will raise a lot of hands preflop here.

when im behind, my outs are more likely to be clean than in other HU situations.

this is the only turn card i would take a shot with, as i can fold out a lot of better hands.

[DBowling]

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Let's not forget, we don't need to be ahead of Villian's stealing range to make this a call. We are getting over 3:1 to see the flop.

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[chesspain]

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Let's not forget, we don't need to be ahead of Villian's stealing range to make this a call. We are getting over 3:1 to see the flop.

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This would be all well and good if Hero was calling all-in without worrying about the pesky matter of playing the flop and beyond.

[DBowling]

i think i handle myself well preflop, though im not certain that this is a good example of that.

[Jeff W]

How many hands on villain?

I don't think the pre flop call is bad. Your equity is 40-50% w/ 3.3:1 odds. Of course, you need to dump your hand most of the time post flop.

Fold the flop. Fold the turn.

[SmileyEH]

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This is kind of a tangent, but I think one of the biggest mistakes that players who post here make is not stealing enough, and not defending enough.

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That's funny you say this, because I was flamed for my pre-flop defense decision in the following hand:

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What I think, and what many posters on the board think are often in dissagreement. In this hand though I think even 64s is beyond what I would defend with, unless I had a good read on the villian. However, defending with it can never be much more than a very small mistake.

-SmileyEH

[SmileyEH]

I'd just like to say I think the preflop call is correct, but I don't agree with postflop play. This is a board I'd much rather just checkfold on.

-SmileyEH

[soweak.]

I would agree with most of the people and dump it pre-flop. I dont even think againt a random hand you're much of a favorite, plus the only real reason to play against him is to hit a favorable flop, which hasn't happened.

However, on the turn I would just call then lead the river. The only reason is that the check/call, check-raise on this board is to be expected with every hand except any hands that are winning here. Against good players a board of 666A is too good a board to bluff, so when you lead the turn it looks as if you're value betting as opposed to sucking your opponent in with a turn C/R.

Against a good opponent I feel you will just get three-bet way to often with and hand the CO might steal with.

[sthief09]

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especially the idea that on the flop you're going to make a terrible call to attempt to take a shot at the turn.

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there is a small chance i am ahead. he will raise a lot of hands preflop here.

when im behind, my outs are more likely to be clean than in other HU situations.

this is the only turn card i would take a shot with, as i can fold out a lot of better hands.

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who cares if you have the best hand? he has initiative. you have 6 outs even if he has 32o

[Justin A]

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this is the only turn card i would take a shot with, as i can fold out a lot of better hands.

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If this is true then you should be folding the flop.