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Old 06-17-2005, 11:45 AM
irishpint irishpint is offline
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Default Re: Hi! I\'m Weak Tight

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Would you cap AK?

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AKo? No. AKs? Yes. The suited potential gives me that extra bit of edge that I need to confidently push for value, even if I suspect I'm up against a big pair.

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you best be capping AKo
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Old 06-17-2005, 11:52 AM
Dave G. Dave G. is offline
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Default Re: Hi! I\'m Weak Tight

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you best be capping AKo

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What 3-betting hands am I in front of with AKo that makes me want to build the pot more? AQo is the only one I can think of. Not a very wide range of hands. Not being soooted, my multiway draw value is also limited.
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Old 06-17-2005, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: Hi! I\'m Weak Tight

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you best be capping AKo

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What 3-betting hands am I in front of with AKo that makes me want to build the pot more? AQo is the only one I can think of. Not a very wide range of hands. Not being soooted, my multiway draw value is also limited.

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3betting hands we're ahead of OR will outdraw, especially in a hand with more than one opponent...
TT,JJ,QQ (while technically behind now, we can easily come from behind. technically we're behind 22 now also), KK we have 3 outs, AA we're in some trouble. AQ, AJ we're good. I suppose this is read dependant, if you *know* your opponent only 3bets with AA then we can probably call (or fold!). However against an unknown 3bet I cap with AKo.
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Old 06-17-2005, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: Hi! I\'m Weak Tight

I was absolutely not calling [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
I was just wondering if i should have fired on the flop. (If i had the Jc i probally would have) At the time i wanted to check and evaluate the action which clearly indicated a fold.
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Old 06-17-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Hi! I\'m Weak Tight

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JJ is not a cap hand

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] please explain yourself, this is weaksauce

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But Ed Miller doesn't cap it!!! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I usually cap JJ. I didn't notice that the OP didn't.

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boo, its not an always cap hand, but saying its not a cap hand without any form of reasoning is not the way to think about poker decisions
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Hi! I\'m Weak Tight

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you best be capping AKo

[/ QUOTE ]What 3-betting hands am I in front of with AKo that makes me want to build the pot more? AQo is the only one I can think of. Not a very wide range of hands. Not being soooted, my multiway draw value is also limited.

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Even assuming your opponent would only 3-bet with AK/AQs/AA/KK/QQ/JJ (and this is conservative), this gives:

Ahead:
AQs(3)

Behind:
AA(3)
KK(3)

Coinflip/tied:
AK(9)
QQ(6)
JJ(6)

So 3 hands we are ahead of, 9 we are splitting with, 6 we are behind and 12 we are a coinflip with. When we are ahead, splitting, or a coinflip (24/30 hands), we almost always have a huge edge on the other 3 players and probably around 40% of the pot equity. When behind we are drawing nearly dead (although we still have a 30% chance against kings). With all of the dead money going in I would raise for value here.
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:23 PM
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Hmm okay, thanks for the insights. I can see the point of reraising with a few other people in the pot donking along with crap. I'll add it to my game.
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:36 PM
AmarilloJim1 AmarilloJim1 is offline
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Default Re: Hi! I\'m Weak Tight

Nice hand. I don't think that JJ is a cap hand. If you 3-Bet it's nice to see if someone caps to gain info; however, I don't think capping JJ is +ev without a great read.
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