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#21
06-15-2005, 03:48 PM
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Re: 25/50 hand reading
In my opinion preflop is terrible. With EP limper, Raiser, Cold-caller, you can be sure you are dominated. An argument could be made that stacks are really deep but I think that only holds weight with A9 hearts.
Given this scenario I like your turn check but it does set-up an auto-bet on the river from your opponent. Despite the fact that BB had KJ, I would assume a range of something like KQs, AJ clubs, or missed draw. Calling isn't too bad given pot and bet size, but I see this tough spot as a direct result of the pre-flop call. 
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#24
06-15-2005, 04:37 PM
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Re: 25/50 hand reading
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[ QUOTE ] or maybe KJ which is what he had. [/ QUOTE ] Sometimes things are just as they appear to be. You may have given the opponent credit for being a better player than he actually is. [/ QUOTE ] IS there something that awdul about his play with KJ here?
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#26
06-15-2005, 04:53 PM
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Re: 25/50 hand reading
If the game is really short-handed, maybe not. But he easily could have gotten pushed off his hand on the turn or the river (if a J hadn't hit). He was fortunate that Bruiser didn't fire a second barrel on the turn.
I guess my point is that I'm not sure Villain had a plan other than hoping to hit a J and/or hoping that Bruiser shut down after he called the flop.
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#28
06-15-2005, 05:20 PM
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Re: 25/50 hand reading
a turn overbet all in is an interseting and my opinion strong move here
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#29
06-15-2005, 05:36 PM
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Re: 25/50 hand reading
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a turn overbet all in is an interseting and my opinion strong move here [/ QUOTE ] Can you explain your reasoning for this? Not saying I agree/disagree.... but I have a tough time understanding bets like this since we are essentially bluffing with a hand that might be best.
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#30
06-15-2005, 05:53 PM
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Re: 25/50 hand reading
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[ QUOTE ] a turn overbet all in is an interseting and my opinion strong move here [/ QUOTE ] Can you explain your reasoning for this? Not saying I agree/disagree.... but I have a tough time understanding bets like this since we are essentially bluffing with a hand that might be best. [/ QUOTE ]in no limit holdem, good players do this all the time... the idea is that he is either on a draw to beat us, or winning... we just know we want him to fold... only very strong made hands will usually call this bet, and since we are thinking TP or flush draw (very likley since most players will raise on this board with set, top two), we are looking for him to fold... BTW if i had played this hand like bruiser, i would have folded river.
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