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Old 06-10-2005, 01:25 AM
-Skeme- -Skeme- is offline
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Default Re: He was quiet and kept to himself

There was no way to determine it was blood. He was completely legal.
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: He was quiet and kept to himself

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There was no way to determine it was blood. He was completely legal.

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There was no way to determine it was blood? Are you serious?
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:27 AM
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There was no way to determine it was blood? Are you serious?

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I'm not sure how the laws differ when dealing with a person crossing the border, but I don't think that police would have the right to test the chainsaw for human blood without a warrant (or at least probable cause and exigent circumstances, which it doesn't seem that they did).
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: He was quiet and kept to himself

I admit we are both just talking from what we think we know, but I am 99% sure that if a cop thinks what he sees is blood, he has the right to atleast detain the car/driver until he finds out.
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: He was quiet and kept to himself

I know that the officer could put him under an ivestigative detention for any number of reasons, but I'm not sure that he would necessarily be able to test the chainsaw for blood without a warrant, and I'm not sure that he would be able to get one when the suspect is a US citizen, has no outstanding warrants, and there are no other indications of illegal activity.

We've got a bunch of lawyers on here, who wants to lend a hand?
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: He was quiet and kept to himself

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There was no way to determine it was blood? Are you serious?

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Yes. I am serious. You can't keep him from crossing on a hunch. You think they can do random DNA tests?
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:40 AM
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Yes. I am serious. You can't keep him from crossing on a hunch. You think they can do random DNA tests?

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Well, if the border patrol found the bloody chainsaw, it could give them probable cause to detain him, and the fact that he's travelling might give them enough reason to hold him for an extended period of time since he's obviously a flight risk. I'm not sure that they'd be able to run tests on his property to find out if it's human blood on it or if they'd be able to get enough evidence to charge him with anything.
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Old 06-10-2005, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: He was quiet and kept to himself

As long as he isn't Arab looking, let him in. THE PATRIOT ACT ROCKS THE HOUSE.
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Old 06-10-2005, 02:09 AM
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They kept him there for hours and interrogated him. Apparently they couldn't do more, even with a bloody chainsaw. If anything, they should've been able to get him for the brass knuckles, right? I'mn sure those are illegal.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:11 AM
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They are a felony, at least in MI. They are idiots and are lucky this guy didn't kill anyone else after he was allowed into the country.
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