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Old 06-05-2005, 12:31 AM
adios adios is offline
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Default Re: \"Tourney players are idiots\" -Mike Matusow

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Even though he is annoying he has a good point, people who watch the wpt and such are being taught to love coinflips way too much, too much preflop pushing really diminishes the skill of the game, which is mainly seen postflop.

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When people need chips what else are they supposed to do? My take on what Matusow stated was that he took up big cards against short stacks with pairs and lost more than his share in a short period (doubt if he lost 6 in a row btw) when he was a slight dog. Sklansky in his tournament book pointed out this flaw in the structure of NL Hold'em i.e. that moving all in pre-flop negates a superior players advantage alot (not totally). Lot's of money to be won in these tournaments and when people recognize they need chips to have a competitive stack they try to double up so they're willing to gamble.
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: \"Tourney players are idiots\" -Mike Matusow

I like how he named Can Kim Hua a different name. Can Can Cua. I think the luck factor in these tournaments will be huge. Mike did admit his stupidity when he said he bluffed off his last remaining chips.
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Old 06-05-2005, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: \"Tourney players are idiots\" -Mike Matusow

It doesn't diminish the skill of the game at all. Part of the skill of the game is to adjust to weak players, which apparently Matusow failed to do.
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Old 06-05-2005, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: \"Tourney players are idiots\" -Mike Matusow

Why is he trying to steal the blinds with Q8 off someone who can reraise him with hands like 33? (and presumably KQ, 99, Q9s, A2, KT etc).

Edited list of hands to make my point more clear.

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Old 06-05-2005, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: \"Tourney players are idiots\" -Mike Matusow

That's just what I was thinking when I was watching the video. Gee Mike, if people are calling your all-ins with any small pair, maybe you should stop making moves on them with K high.
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Old 06-05-2005, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: \"Tourney players are idiots\" -Mike Matusow

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That's just what I was thinking when I was watching the video. Gee Mike, if people are calling your all-ins with any small pair, maybe you should stop making moves on them with K high.

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That is what I thought. Last time I checked any small/medium pair is a slight favorite over two overcards head-to-head. And Mike's saying he lost six coin flips in a row lacks credibility, IMO.

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Old 06-05-2005, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: \"Tourney players are idiots\" -Mike Matusow

and how exactly does 55 or 66 know they are slightly ahead? Uh the point is that they don't know.
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Old 06-05-2005, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: \"Tourney players are idiots\" -Mike Matusow

If a guy will call with AK, AQ, AJ, KQs, ATs and any pair:

The guy with 66 is way ahead of 55,44,33,22 == 24 hands

Way behind against 77,88,99,TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA == 56 hands

Slightly favored against AK, AQ, AJ, KQs, ATs == 56 hands

Just throwing this range of hands out not saying it's realistic. However, the thinking is that I need to double up and I'm willing to take the worst of it but I won't be taking too much the worst of it.

Approximately off the top of my head, that guy with 66 is about a 7-6 dog to come out on top. Not a bad gamble when you need to double IMO. I realize that the range may not be realistic but this is the thinking involved with making the move with a hand 66 IMO. Also if you don't know where you're at after the flop against some players i.e. they play better than you after the flop it even makes more sense IMO.
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: \"Tourney players are idiots\" -Mike Matusow

Funny video of Matusow. Good natured.

What's missing from his analysis is the size of the blinds in relation to the stack sizes that were pushing with small pocket pairs. And, as DS points out, if he's raising with AQ and repeatedly seeing all-in in response, after about 3 or 4 he should figure out "I'm probably a dog in this battle once again."

His rant would have a little more punch if he weren't repeatedly getting his money in as a 47% dog.
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: \"Tourney players are idiots\" -Mike Matusow

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And, as DS points out, if he's raising with AQ and repeatedly seeing all-in in response, after about 3 or 4 he should figure out "I'm probably a dog in this battle once again."

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That doesn't make him any less pot-committed.

Pretty sweet interview. I enjoyed it. Mike is probably a pretty hilarious guy when he's in a good mood.
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