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#21
06-01-2005, 03:09 PM
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Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?
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Are you the godfather of this site? because you sure act like it your very swift to speak for everyone a little humor never hurts it did stink though ................... [/ QUOTE ] You'll have to excuse Kyro...he spends too much time involved in OOT (same applies to Sponger). The poster who you're clearly thinking of in your above post is citanul...and yes, outside of PVS actually being the godfather, citanul pretty much gets to wack and smack as much as he feels like (he's good friends with baby jesus, after all). Yugoslav 
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#22
06-01-2005, 03:10 PM
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Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?
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[ QUOTE ] Are you the godfather of this site? because you sure act like it your very swift to speak for everyone a little humor never hurts it did stink though ................... [/ QUOTE ] You'll have to excuse Kyro...he spends too much time involved in OOT (same applies to Sponger). The poster who you're clearly thinking of in your above post is citanul...and yes, outside of PVS actually being the godfather, citanul pretty much gets to wack and smack as much as he feels like (he's good friends with baby jesus, after all). Yugoslav [/ QUOTE ] You compared me to sponger? Dude.
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#23
06-01-2005, 03:12 PM
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Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?
Does anyone think that with 4800 if you fold the QQs the chances if you are a good player you could easily win.at worst a 2nd.So why take the risk in that spot.It is almost a for sure 2nd so I see alot at risk
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#25
06-01-2005, 03:16 PM
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Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?
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Does anyone think that with 4800 if you fold the QQs the chances if you are a good player you could easily win.at worst a 2nd.So why take the risk in that spot.It is almost a for sure 2nd so I see alot at risk [/ QUOTE ] It's close, I'll agree. But if you win the hand, you should take first about 90% of the time. I'm assuming big stack has been very loose about his pushing standards, which means you're a heavy favorite over him the majority of the time. I'd love to see some solid numbers...maybe from Eastbay's program? But my gut tells me calling is slightly more EV with a lot more variance.
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#26
06-01-2005, 03:17 PM
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Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Are you the godfather of this site? because you sure act like it your very swift to speak for everyone a little humor never hurts it did stink though ................... [/ QUOTE ] You'll have to excuse Kyro...he spends too much time involved in OOT (same applies to Sponger). The poster who you're clearly thinking of in your above post is citanul...and yes, outside of PVS actually being the godfather, citanul pretty much gets to wack and smack as much as he feels like (he's good friends with baby jesus, after all). Yugoslav [/ QUOTE ] You compared me to sponger? Dude. [/ QUOTE ] yeah thats pretty low
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#27
06-01-2005, 03:17 PM
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Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?
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You compared me to sponger? Dude. [/ QUOTE ] Haha...I saw that coming.... You and Sponger's posts can be taken with different grains of salt..... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. But....the 'spending too much time in OOT' certainly applies to Sponger if it applies to you, [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. Hell, I spend too much time in OOT...I'm also relatively jaded with my posts too....bah! Am *I* becoming Sponger [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. Yugoslav [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#28
06-01-2005, 03:21 PM
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Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?
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yeah thats pretty low [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] How's your platonic friend doing? I wrote a late reply to tha thread....I found the situation and relationship interesting....would love to discuss tomorrow while drunk... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Yugoslav
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#29
06-01-2005, 03:21 PM
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Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?
Interesting question.
This is another close decision, it depends (as always) on the range you put the big stack on. Let's review the facts: You have 2nd largest stack. 2 short stacks have very small stacks compared to the large stacks. They have 3-4x BB so are close to desperation but the 3rd highest may just try to fold into the money. You have 34.4% equity in the prize pool if you fold and BB folds. You have 35.8% equity in the prize pool if you fold and BB calls and loses. You have 44% equity in the prize pool if you call and win. You have 0% equity if you call and lose (and BB folds). QQ is 80:20 to win v. any 2 cards. If you call and BB folds your weighted average equity in the pot is 35.2% assuming Big Stack will push with any 2. If you think that Big Stack will push with a tighter range (if your win % drops even 3% calling is worse than folding) OR there is any chance BB will call you should fold.
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#30
06-01-2005, 03:21 PM
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Re: easy bubble fold PF with QQ?
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[ QUOTE ] You compared me to sponger? Dude. [/ QUOTE ] Haha...I saw that coming.... You and Sponger's posts can be taken with different grains of salt..... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. But....the 'spending too much time in OOT' certainly applies to Sponger if it applies to you, [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. Hell, I spend too much time in OOT...I'm also relatively jaded with my posts too....bah! Am *I* becoming Sponger [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. Yugoslav [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I do spend my fair share of time in OOT. I don't post that much there though. But I'll crap myself the day I see Sponger post a serious, thought-provoking strategy post or respond to a thread with the sole intention of helping another.
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