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05-27-2005, 04:40 PM
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Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?
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I always wear my belt because it's just the smart thing to do. I don't want to go through the windshield if I get in an accident. But I don't think that people should have to wear seat belts if they don't want to. [/ QUOTE ] Is this Darwinism? 
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05-27-2005, 05:00 PM
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Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] A cop can actually pull you over because he claims to have 'saw' you without a seatbelt on? [/ QUOTE ] They can in NY, and they do. [/ QUOTE ] In WA too. New tag line is "Click it or ticket" Freakin [/ QUOTE ] I'm not actually certain that is legal here. I know they used to have to pull you over for something else to give you a seat belt ticket. The state congress gave them a directive to ticket people for seatbelts, but i'm not sure they actually remembered to *give them the power* to do it. I could be wrong though. The campaign is as lame as the signs on the side of the road that give busybodies a # to call to report HOV lane violators. [/ QUOTE ] It definitely is something they can pull you over for now. Happened about 18-24 months ago, when it was made a primary moving violation. And "click it or ticket" goes along with "a safer state at .08", and "drive hammered, get nailed". and there was one other one they had... Also, I found this interesting Driver errors resulting in Fatalities. It doesn't specify if these are independent events or they could be combined (like being drowsy, drunk, and overcorrecting while passing illegally and speeding) 
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#23
05-27-2005, 05:06 PM
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Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] A cop can actually pull you over because he claims to have 'saw' you without a seatbelt on? [/ QUOTE ] They can in NY, and they do. [/ QUOTE ] In WA too. New tag line is "Click it or ticket" Freakin [/ QUOTE ] I'm not actually certain that is legal here. I know they used to have to pull you over for something else to give you a seat belt ticket. The state congress gave them a directive to ticket people for seatbelts, but i'm not sure they actually remembered to *give them the power* to do it. I could be wrong though. The campaign is as lame as the signs on the side of the road that give busybodies a # to call to report HOV lane violators. [/ QUOTE ] It definitely is something they can pull you over for now. Happened about 18-24 months ago, when it was made a primary moving violation. And "click it or ticket" goes along with "a safer state at .08", and "drive hammered, get nailed". and there was one other one they had... Also, I found this interesting Driver errors resulting in Fatalities. It doesn't specify if these are independent events or they could be combined (like being drowsy, drunk, and overcorrecting while passing illegally and speeding) [/ QUOTE ] The law is deifnitely intended to save insurance companies $$ [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. Thanks for the info on the reclassification to a major moving violation.
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#24
05-27-2005, 05:18 PM
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Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?
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[ QUOTE ] They aren't allowed to pull you over for solely not wearing your seatbelt, so I dont care. It has to be at a roadstop thing, or you have to be dumb enough to admit to not wearing one when pulled over for something else. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know about MA, but this is definitely not true in other places. [/ QUOTE ] In Mississippi it is a Secondary offense, meaning you have to be pulled over for a Primary offense before the seatbelt voilation can take place. I just tell the Pig that I had to undo my seatbelt to get my Driver's License and Insurance Card works everytime! Big Steve [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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05-27-2005, 05:19 PM
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Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] They aren't allowed to pull you over for solely not wearing your seatbelt, so I dont care. It has to be at a roadstop thing, or you have to be dumb enough to admit to not wearing one when pulled over for something else. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know about MA, but this is definitely not true in other places. [/ QUOTE ] In Mississippi it is a Secondary offense, meaning you have to be pulled over for a Primary offense before the seatbelt voilation can take place. I just tell the Pig that I had to undo my seatbelt to get my Driver's License and Insurance Card works everytime! Big Steve [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] That worked for me once about five years ago.
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05-27-2005, 06:42 PM
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Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?
How the hell is the state making a perfectly sensible law unconstitutional?
Seriously, where TF in the consitution do you get the right to be an idiot who creates work and expense for other people?
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#27
05-27-2005, 06:54 PM
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Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?
since they started click it or ticket here they can pull you over soley for not wearing a seatbelt.....
but what can i say MA is the gayest state in the country.
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05-27-2005, 06:56 PM
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Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?
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since they started click it or ticket here they can pull you over soley for not wearing a seatbelt..... but what can i say MA is the gayest state in the country. [/ QUOTE ] Our states are very similar.
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#29
05-27-2005, 08:04 PM
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Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?
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How the hell is the state making a perfectly sensible law unconstitutional? Seriously, where TF in the consitution do you get the right to be an idiot who creates work and expense for other people? [/ QUOTE ] It isn't the act itself I disagree with, however, it is fining people for not doing something that the state deems neccessary to do. This would be along the lines of the state wanting to drudge up money so they make smoking cigarettes a fineable offense, anyone caught smoking butts gets fined $30. The seatbelt law is essentially a 'sin tax'. However, unlike other sin taxes the only person being harmed by it is yourself. ~Justin
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#30
05-27-2005, 08:07 PM
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Re: Massachusetts Seat Belt Law... unconstitutional?
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[ QUOTE ] How the hell is the state making a perfectly sensible law unconstitutional? Seriously, where TF in the consitution do you get the right to be an idiot who creates work and expense for other people? [/ QUOTE ] It isn't the act itself I disagree with, however, it is fining people for not doing something that the state deems neccessary to do. This would be along the lines of the state wanting to drudge up money so they make smoking cigarettes a fineable offense, anyone caught smoking butts gets fined $30. The seatbelt law is essentially a 'sin tax'. However, unlike other sin taxes the only person being harmed by it is yourself. ~Justin [/ QUOTE ] Why should my taxes pay to scrap your [censored] corpse off of the highway?
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