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05-12-2005, 09:06 PM
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Re: Call w/ AK early in the game?
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[ QUOTE ] I think this was played wrong from start to finish. The PFR was wayy too high. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. If this is a $5 or $10 tourney, then I think the play is great. PFR is enough that someone might actually fold, then when you hit your monster let the dork with AJ bluff away his stack with a check. If this is a 20+, then yeah, that pfr is a little large unless we are dealing with a super loosey goosey. And I would not check the flop either. [/ QUOTE ] This was a $5, and I figured 4xBB was a decent raise preflop, but the concensus seems to be that it was high. What should I be raising here? As for the flop, I had the intent of checkraising, but the size of his bet kinda took me by suprise and I wasn't sure if I wanted all my chips in this early. I wouldn't have been terribly suprised if he had called my PF raise with 77 or KJ. In the end I followed through and pushed. He showed KQos. 
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#2
05-12-2005, 08:03 PM
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Re: Call w/ AK early in the game?
The PFR was 4xBB which seems reasonable? Maybe I'm missing something
But yeah, checking on the flop was a mistake. Bet 1/3 to 1/2 the flop.
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#4
05-13-2005, 07:57 AM
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Re: Call w/ AK early in the game?
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it is over 4x the BB. 4x the BB is 240 plus 2 limpers . He raised to 260. [/ QUOTE ] His PFR was fine.
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#5
05-12-2005, 10:01 AM
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Re: Call w/ AK early in the game?
No one has mentioned the relative stack sizes yet either I don't think. The villian has a big stack of about 3K and hero has 1K before the hand.
Based on this, and the size of the flop bet, villian is making a play with little or nothing. He is isolated heads up against a relative short stack and makes a bet after hero checks the flop that can only be called if hero is trapping big time with. If he made 2 pair or a set on the flop, I can't see him wanting to push hero out when heads up with a bet of 2/3 hero's remaining stack. Push back in a heartbeat. It's either a stone bluff or he's trying to protect a weak made hand.
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#6
05-12-2005, 09:16 PM
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Re: Call w/ AK early in the game?
Slowplaying a K high flop is bad, its real bad if you're one of those Harrington people that autobets whiffed flops.
However, if you check a whiffed AQ here most of the time I don't mind the check.
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#7
05-12-2005, 09:34 PM
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Re: Call w/ AK early in the game?
The preflop raise is fine IMO, especially after a preflop limper (I think its about the exact amount I would raise). The flop is basically your dream flop and there is no way that all your money won't go in if given the oppurtunity.
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#8
05-14-2005, 11:07 PM
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Re: Call w/ AK early in the game?
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Slowplaying a K high flop is bad, its real bad if you're one of those Harrington people that autobets whiffed flops. However, if you check a whiffed AQ here most of the time I don't mind the check. [/ QUOTE ] I haven't read Harrington yet. Could you explain?
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#9
05-14-2005, 11:19 PM
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Re: Call w/ AK early in the game?
Harrington would say that since you're the lead rasier preflop, if you miss the flop entirely but you suspect everyone else did (or you're in last position and it's checked to you), you should make a "continuation bet" of ~50-75% of the pot. At least that's what i'm recalling by memory as a NLHE beginner.... I'm sure others can correct my application.
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#10
05-14-2005, 11:21 PM
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Re: Call w/ AK early in the game?
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I haven't read Harrington yet. Could you explain? [/ QUOTE ] Well, Harrington doesn't say that you should autobet missed flops. He says that on a non-scary board, putting out a continuation bet (or a probe bet) gives you a good chance at taking it down. If you raise with pocket nines preflop and the board comes out Ad Kd Jd, it's check/fold time.
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