1000 tournies, question about moving on up

[Degen]

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Screw the 30s. Play the 20s during the day and 50s during the night (if your bankroll is $2000 or more). My ROI in the 20s is about 0.20 during the day. My ROI in the 50s is about 0.17 during the night. The 50s is a small sample size (about 115), but I can tell you that I feel very comfortable playing the 50s at night. The extra chips are nice, and there always seems to be 2 or 3 fish swimming in any one tournament. I hate playing them during the day (some of the $215 players seem to slum in the $50s during the day).

I just find the $30s very tough--good players, fewer chips. Very small sample size, since I got out of there pretty fast.

I'm not saying that the 50s are easier than the 30s. I'm saying that the 50s at night are easier than the 30s during the day.


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Please take it from someone with far more tourneys logged at the 55's and 33's than you JM...you are way off on both accounts.

The 33's are where the fishies swim and the 55's are much tougher to beat. You can find a good table/good run at the 55's and a bad table/bad run at the 33's but i definately wouldn't say the 55's are better than the 33's.

Its a much different game Maulik, you have to make a lot of adjustments, it took me about 100 tourneys to stop playing them wrong-more chips changes things.




Andre

[Degen]

wow...i remember a couple months ago Scuba you were saying

'difference between your ears'
'55's play like the 22's'

do you still beleive this? are you still at the 55's or did you go higher?


Andre

[Degen]

i like 2+2ers at my table...they love folding their blinds [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Andre

[Scuba Chuck]

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wow...i remember a couple months ago Scuba you were saying

'difference between your ears'
'55's play like the 22's'

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I generally still believe these comments. The analysis is based on the fact that players like to battle still. In general hand ranges are different when putting villain on calling ranges. Your AK is no longer gonna get called by A2, but might get called by 33.

That being said, the point is about battling. What's the best play when people battle? Furthermore, you will come across enough players frequently enough for your notes to start to really work.

I logged 500+ $55s last month. My record is not exemplary, +11.1% is all. It was the most frustrating month of the year for me so far. Anyway, my point is, I found the $33s tighter than the $55s.

Currently I'm mixing in the $33s, $55s, and $109s depending on time of day and other factors.

Should Maulik move up? IMO, it matters on his confidence (assuming BR guidelines followed). If he feels that he can slaughter the $33s, then do like the Jeffersons' "movin on up, to the top...."

Scuba

[Bonafone]

Although I haven't played too many tournaments, I agree with Degan when he said it took about 100 tournaments to adjust properly. Some of this is very well due to variance but I only finished in the money ~33% and after my first 500 I was around 41%.

I actually never played the 30's, skipped right past them, but you can find some very soft 50's, and also some very tough tables. One word of advice is don't sit down with too many multi-tablers, they tend to be better than average and will hurt your profit.

[Maulik]

I'm going to grind 400 $33s and then consider moving up based on my run and confidence. I have taken nearly two weeks off to bang out some stuff for classes.

[Maulik]

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I appreciate your responses and am considering the following:

buy / buyin = AM / peak hrs

20s / 30s
playing all 30s
30s / 50s

I probably shouldn't play the $20s to increase my ability? So I'm considering playins all 30s simply to get better which will likely lead to a lower ROI but larger confidence?



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Let me add, my goal in playing 1k tournaments is to win $. ROI is less important than becoming a solid player. That said at the end of this madness I'd like to close in on playing the $50s. That said, should I simply play the $33s during peak/nonpeak hours?

-Thanks!

[raptor517]

ayt bro, heres the deal. if u got the roll, play the 55s. i cant imagine worse play than at that level. i havent played a level BELOW the 55s in a long long time, but its pretty awful. the 109s are awful too. if u can stomach a bit of a swing, i highly recommend you 135781353089 table the 55s. god the play is awful there. anyways, good luck with yer challenge. holla

[Degen]

cool cool thanks...care to share any secrets on this:

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depending on time of day and other factors.

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??


Andre

[Apathy]

I don't understand how you are going to have the BR for moving up after going on a trip to Europe. I will give you the same advice I usually give to people that want to move up... Take shots. Play 4 or 5 50s today, see how you like them. When you move up play less tables.