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Old 05-06-2005, 05:22 PM
JackOfSpeed JackOfSpeed is offline
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Bad fold. You would have rivered "three pair," a nearly unbeatable hand.
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Old 05-06-2005, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: Results

and a clear example of why 3 betting is usually the way to go. Sure AA got there, but you would have punished him for trying, and in the end thats all we can do.

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Old 05-06-2005, 06:54 PM
I Play 2 Ski I Play 2 Ski is offline
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J9 got there, but your right. a vast majority if the time I do just that, but like I said, this time if felt UTG+1 was up to something. I waas wrong, but still wtf was he thinking.
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Old 05-06-2005, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Dumping top 2 on the turn

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What ever happened to good laydowns?

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Chris Moneymaker won.

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Old 05-06-2005, 07:04 PM
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Bad fold. You would have rivered "three pair," a nearly unbeatable hand.

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It's not funny damnit.

*cries*
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Old 05-06-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Dumping top 2 on the turn

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What ever happened to good laydowns? I think three betting is an option, but I like the laydown. There is a good chance you are behind (QQ, JJ, 99, 77, KT, T8)....but even if you are ahead, there are MANY cards that will kill your hand on the river. I'm not saying three betting is wrong...but it is not a clear three bet (I haven't worked out the math).

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if he had one of those hands, a raise doesn't seem like the obvious line, i like the 3 bet
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Old 05-06-2005, 07:13 PM
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You would have rivered "three pair," a nearly unbeatable hand.

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It's a Canadian full house!
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Old 05-06-2005, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Dumping top 2 on the turn

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it looks to me like to me like SB has AQ or made a set on the turn with QQ.

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Just because he bet? Don't you think he would bet out again with JJ, KK or AA? Of course, he might have check-raised on some street, but I don't see how you can narrow him down to specifically AQ or QQ.
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Old 05-06-2005, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: Dumping top 2 on the turn

Raise the flop. 3-bet the turn. UTG could easily have Q9/QT or J9/J7/97. Given you showed no strength on the flop, you have to 3-bet this turn or at least call. This is a really bad fold IMO.
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Old 05-06-2005, 10:49 PM
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Default Just want to say

This was a great thinking post. Thanks for all the comments and advice. You all have helped my improve my game tremendously!
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