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Old 05-02-2005, 06:21 PM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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1. Daniel didn't mention a qualifier. I suspected it was an oversight but wasn't sure. Hi-Lo without a qualifier is still sometimes played and it is the game my chapter is about in Doyle's first book. I believe it is the best poker chapter ever written and so do many others. So I thought Daniel might like the idea of playing the guy who even Doyle considers the authority on the subject.

2. I have virtually no experience heads up. Daniel should be a small favorite over me in the less technical games. In the more technical games such as single draw lowball, game theory should negate any psychological edge he might have.

3. For me to flip a coin for 100K someone would have to lay me 130-100.

4. I have to retract my earlier statement that extra publicity would make a close gamble worth it to me. That is still true. The problem is that it would be inappropriate for me to do something that the Wynn hotel could use for their benefit. Nothing at all against them. It's just that the Bellagio has generously let their casino be the one to put my game WPT All IN HOLDEM on their floor for the Nevada Gaming Commission's 90 day trial. So it would be extremely ungrateful for me to be a major part of any media event for a different hotel. Had that not slipped my mind, I wouldn't have even made my original offer.

5. I am willing to play the follwing headup game with Daniel if it is not used to publicize a non MGM hotel. Stud 8/B. $200 ante, $300 bring in. $500-$1000, $40,000 freezeout. He lays me 50,000 to 40,000. I have no reason to think he would take this deal but it is definite on my part. If he wants to double the stakes I expect I can sell half of myself. I offer this proposition only to set in stone a game that I would absolutely play. That doesn't mean I wouldn't entertain other propositions.
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Old 05-02-2005, 06:22 PM
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Damn.. like 5 minutes too slow on that one.

- MAC
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Old 05-02-2005, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Negreanu openly mocks Sklansky

Maybe I don't get it...please correct me if I'm wrong

If they played HU 7-stud hi/lo with no qualifier, then wouldn't they always chop the pot? Kinda makes it pointless, as someone would always have the high side, and someone would always have the low side, with the rare occasion of catching a hand that can scoop (i.e wheel) versus 2 pr or set and so forth.

Am I just way off? Doesn't everyone in the known poker universe accept the standard of hi/lo being hi/lo(8)??

EDIT: OK OK OK...I'm wrong...the man himself spoke. Please don't banninate me or beratinate me.
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Old 05-02-2005, 06:30 PM
PukaPlaya PukaPlaya is offline
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I think that you need to state "Hi/Lo no qualifier" or else it is implied that the game would be played by the standard 8 or better rules.

No qualifier is the exception not the rule.

That being said I would love to see a HU match between DS and DN.
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Old 05-02-2005, 06:36 PM
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David,
You are a class act, all the way.
Thank you for the commments.
Wm Kidd
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Old 05-02-2005, 06:45 PM
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EDIT: OK OK OK...I'm wrong...the man himself spoke. Please don't banninate me or beratinate me

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No, I'm gonna. Your whole statement was something an 8th grader would know better than to make. I thought it was a joke, you should have deleted it instead of editing. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 05-02-2005, 07:44 PM
Greg (FossilMan) Greg (FossilMan) is offline
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Default Re: Negreanu Challenges Sklansky

500-1000 with a 200 ante and 300 bring-in? Why this non-standard structure? Is this just a way to create a game that Daniel hasn't played (at least not by that structure)? When the opponent raises the bring-in, it is obviously wrong to ever fold any hand no matter how weak it is, because you're only calling 200 more to win 1200 already in the pot. This structure clearly doesn't favor the player who is ultra-patient to find a good starting hand, so I'm not clear why you would pick this structure, since that is certainly a poker trait where you beat Daniel (i.e., patience).

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

P.S. - David, I also want to know how much you'll lay me to play you in this or some other game.
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Old 05-02-2005, 07:46 PM
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Foolish pride always busts the gambler in the end.
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Old 05-02-2005, 07:49 PM
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Midnight Baseball. Just imagine the publicity 2 of the greats playing this game over a large sum would get. How could anyone not cover that? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-02-2005, 09:17 PM
David Sklansky David Sklansky is offline
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I meant 100 ante. Sorry. Thinking 1000-2000.
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