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Old 05-03-2005, 01:19 AM
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Huh?

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I was bumping it to see if anyone else had any thoughts. I guess not.
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: Fun w/87s

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the river is interesting. I don't think most people value bet the river into 3 people with just one pair. I think it gets checked through a lot, and a lot of times he does bet he has you beat.

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I think this is very likely.
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Old 05-03-2005, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: Fun w/87s

can we talk about the flop and turn action here for a moment...
i find some difficulty with 2nd pair.

7.5 sb to you on the flop ragged board.
you have:
2 outs: 2 7's (full outs)
2.5 outs: 3 8's (nearly full outs)
1.5 outs: bdfd
total, 6ish outs. (need 6.7-1)

pot odds support the call/raise.
raise to: buy the button, see a free river after UI turn, anything else?
i find myself sometimes folding here (esp. if the board is more connected/cordinated) .. and then sometimes calling (i would probly only call in this situation) lack of agression? throwing away +EV hands?


turn: 11.75bb
1.75 outs: 2 7's (full outs -a bit for [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img])
2.25 outs: 3 8's (nearly full outs)

i only see about 4 outs here... 10.5-1, yes. easy call
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