Party Poker Rigged

[banditdad]

Recently on the WPT the ultimate winner knocked out a number of other players by catching the exact card he needed on the river. Made 1.5 mil. I believe he started his roll by knocking out Berman on the river by getting one of the only 2-3 outs he had. Obviously this is proof that the WPT is rigged.

Recently while playing in a tourney at the Orleans at the final table I went all in with a 55. I was called by another player with QA. The flop came 55Q. The turn was a Q and the river was a Q. I lost so obviously the game was rigged.

Of course when I win the game is on the square.

[young nut]

I love the way he tries to justify his credibility by saying he has an associate science degree....laff. He has a degree, so he definitely must know what he's talking about when it comes to corporations and rigging online sites.

[Tapin]

I have played dozens of hands of Texas-Hold'Em at my local brick & mortar casino. If you think for one minute that those newfangled shuffling machines in the table are legitimate you are dead wrong. ShuffleMaster is rigged so that eventually YOU WILL LOSE ALL OF YOUR MONEY - period.

I'm a consistent online winner, but every time the dealer at my local brick & mortar casino puts the cards in that hellhole in the middle of the table, they always come back up shuffled in such a manner as to deal me pocket aces and my opponent trip sixes on the flop. It never fails, I get JT sooted under the gun and raise it up only to run into someone else's pocket kings.

You can't analyze the algorithm that the ShuffleMaster is using. And they don't even give you hand histories at the B&M casinos for you to statistically analyze! I talked to the floor man about it, and he just told me to take notes faster. As if!

The best thing you can do is STAY AWAY FROM SHUFFLEMASTER. It doesn't matter which casino you see it in -- IT IS RIGGED SO THAT YOU WILL LOSE.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

[meow_meow]

I kinda feel bad for this guy.
He obviously lost all his money, and needs someone to blame.

[dabluebery]

This is scary.... Proof of Party being rigged.....

PARTY IS RIGGED

[I Play 2 Ski]

You Win! reply of the day

[CountDuckula]

Sigh.... Behind every bad beat lies a mistake. Either the player taking the beat failed to bet and/or raise to drive the player giving the beat out of the hand, or the latter player called when it was incorrect. This happens a lot in online poker, and I don't believe I've heard of a single site that someone didn't accuse of being rigged. Bad beats happen everywhere, B&M or online. I had AA once at the Excalibur in Las Vegas a few months ago. I bet or raised at every opportunity, the board didn't show any straight or flush draws, and one guy kept calling every one of my bets/raises. With 65o. He turned the 6 and rivered the 5. If our roles had been reversed, he would have won with the aces, because I wouldn't have been in there to catch that turn and river! When that happens online, and it will, because there are a lot of bad players, people think it's evidence of rigging. It just means that people are gambling it up, or they're failing to recognize when they have a bad hand. People holding 47o, as someone else in the thread mentioned, will hang around because it's only 50 cents. If enough people do that, one of them is likely to catch the exact cards they need to beat the legitimate hands.

There is an experiment I've proposed, and all it takes is a deck of cards and some paper. Deal out 10 sets of hole cards. Then deal out a flop, turn and river. Do this over and over, and keep track of how many times a crap hand will catch a miracle card, simply by staying in the hand long enough. This is what happens when bad players play. They refuse to back down. Most of the time, they're throwing away chips, but sometimes (often enough to reinforce the behavior), they get lucky and drag pots that they had no business being in in the first place.

The better player you are, the higher your ratio of bad beats taken to bad beats given becomes. If you only play quality hands, and play them competently after the flop, you will win in the long run -- don't forget that the long run doesn't mean a week, a month, or even six months; you will suffer variance, because that's just the way randomness works. The problem arises when people go on tilt and start playing crap in an effort to keep up with the morons. Or they fail to be sufficiently aggressive with their top hands; i.e., they won't raise AA or KK for fear of being the victim of yet another bad beat. But that's how you make up for the losses; you build the pots so that when you win, it compensates you for when you lose.

-Mike

[imported_CaseClosed326]

Rigged by PP to make people believe that PP is not rigged. So basicly everyone posting here is a bot...controlled by PP...and hitler

[Greg J]

Hey PPrigged:

Great post! It's a subject worthy of some serious discussion and analysis. I think the rest of the people on this board are not really treating this particuar subject with the level of depth and sincere discussion it deserves. I applaud your efforts to try and remedy this. All you posters that are scolding him should really think for a minute at the serious implications of what he is talking about, but they are too busy drinking the standard 2+2 Koolaid of "Party just CAN'T be rigged!" This issue of Party being potentially rigged is something that deserves more in depth and serious discussion! I am seriously disapointed in all of you! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

PPrigged, here is a link That I think you might find helpful, and is very relevant to the issue discussed in you post. I hope I have at least been helpful.

Thanks
Greg

[SoftcoreRevolt]

I think he's just mad because he just figured out an associate's degree is completely worthless.