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Old 04-13-2005, 03:08 PM
SlantNGo SlantNGo is offline
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Default Re: Let\'s talk about river bets

It should swing it to a check/call because you're not ahead of much anymore, even given the wide range of hands a loose-passive may have.

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So how should this affect my decision, if at all?

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Old 04-13-2005, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s talk about river bets

[grunching]

Well, I had this long response written out, but it was so convoluted I confused myself.

If we bet, will villain call with Qx, 8x, or just a PP? If we check, what hands will villain bet? Against a very passive opponent, I think villain only bets hands we lose to, (yet we have to call) but will call with some hands we beat. With that in mind, we bet?

I have no idea... now to see how wrong I am. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s talk about river bets

He's shown no aggression, you have top pair and the king on the river is not helping him.
Although I don't play these limits, so I may be way off base.
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s talk about river bets

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He's shown no aggression, you have top pair and the king on the river is not helping him.
Although I don't play these limits, so I may be way off base.

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I'm not trying to pick on you, but what makes you so sure the King on the river didn't help him?

What about the fact that it's a club?
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s talk about river bets

I think I would bet here - he just seems like he's along for the ride.
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Old 04-13-2005, 03:50 PM
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I think I would bet here - he just seems like he's along for the ride.

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I agree.

But is he along for the ride with a worse hand that will call often enough to make a bet the correct move?
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Old 04-13-2005, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s talk about river bets

I don't think you're picking at all, if anything you're making me think more about it.
He didn't pair the K on the flop, or he would've raised. If the K brought him a set and he slowplayed the flop, he should've raised you on the turn when it was HU.
And you're right, the club could've helped him, which is why I like your bet/fold.
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Old 04-13-2005, 04:20 PM
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Now that I'm reading this, I'm starting to see the reasoning for checking.
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Old 04-13-2005, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s talk about river bets

So if you check-call, what hands is a passive opponent betting on that river that you're beating when you call?
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Old 04-13-2005, 04:33 PM
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Smaller ace to a chop.
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