Blind Defense vs. 2+2'er

[sthief09]

there aren't many hands that can correctly call from the BB there

[me454555]

c/ring the turn after smoothing calling the flop raise makes your hand very transparent.

[PokerBob]

[ QUOTE ]
c/ring the turn after smoothing calling the flop raise makes your hand very transparent.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hence the following:

I am the worst blind defender in the land.

[oreogod]

3-bet the flop. If he just calls, lead the turn. If he caps, check raise the turn. I think this is the line that gets the most out of a "thinking TAG" type player.

Check-raise the turn on ppl who wont fold or dont know how to read hands to well...the clueless players is what Im trying to say.

Right?

[oreogod]

[ QUOTE ]
I think if you're pairless you'll fold to a bet and if you're paired you won't. if he checks, you'll just about always bet, so he can check raise and maybe make you fold a hand you shouldn't. you'll have a tough time 3-betting without a hand that crushes his. even if he has to pay off a 3-bet, that's not going to happen that often. I think that's the way to go. lead if you call or check raise if you cap

[/ QUOTE ]

Apparently my advice is old news by now. Oh well, at least someone has my line as well. Ya! I rock!

[Shillx]

[ QUOTE ]
c/ring the turn after smoothing calling the flop raise makes your hand very transparent.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nobody ever said that you needed a hand to make this play...

The thing about this flop is that the villian will almost always have a pair and pay it off (and if he folds his 5 outer he is a making a mistake). If it is likely that he has a draw then this line is garbage since he will take the free card.

Brad

[oreogod]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
c/ring the turn after smoothing calling the flop raise makes your hand very transparent.

[/ QUOTE ]

Nobody ever said that you needed a hand to make this play...

The thing about this flop is that the villian will almost always have a pair and pay it off (and if he folds his 5 outer he is a making a mistake). If it is likely that he has a draw then this line is garbage since he will take the free card.

Brad

[/ QUOTE ]

Haha, yeah have u ever seen Neverwin play? My friend plays him and hit him up at 150/300 at UB about a week ago, showed me the hand histories...christ does Neverwin love the constant check raise with nothing move.

He bet call the flop 3 bet and check raised the turn (had nothing). Pretty much whenever he didnt have much. So I dont think it makes a hand transparent. Its opponent dependant.

[flopmonster]

raise