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Re: Spring Break 5/10 Personal Challenge
Dude, I'm stoked to be a 1BB/100 winner at 5/10 6max over 60k hands, especially given the downswing I had (mostly due to me sucking while learning) in february.
6 tables + rakeback are no pauper's income for a college student...some may have higher expectations but for me being able to make $60 /hr while learning is fantastic... I feel like I really have a hold on the 5/10 now (even though I'm not *crushing* it for the 2.5BB/100+ that seems to be necessary) and I'll be taking some stabs at 10/20 once I can get a few things figured out...and i'd love to make 1BB/100 there too! I was one of those who started off with a downswing in addition to having to learn 5/10, so I had no illusions as to my ability initially - but my BB/100 has been steadily climbing these past 40k hands, so I'm not worried. One's BB/100 are so unreliable without an absurd # of hands(my initial downswing cuts my current BB/100 in more than half) that I think telling someone to wait to beat the game for 2+BB/100 before adding 3rd and 4th tables (or 5th and 6th, depending on your setup and ability to multitable) is just costing them money, since it could literally take a hundred thousand hands, even if they somehow began as a 2.5BB/100 player. Surf |
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Re: Spring Break 5/10 Personal Challenge
I think jumping straight into 4 tables helped me learn this game a lot faster. A lot more hands and a lot more basic situations. I moved to the 10/20 from NL without ever playing limit before, and I think the transition would have taken a lot longer if I hadnt been playing so many hands (and reading HUSH religiously of course =P)
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Re: Spring Break 5/10 Personal Challenge
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I looked back at some of your results you were yapping about and I couldnt beleive how poorly you were doing [/ QUOTE ] Wow, I have a fan! What results "couldnt" you "beleive", precisely? |
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Re: Spring Break 5/10 Personal Challenge
There is a common misconception on this board that 2.5/100 or 3.00/100 are easy to attain or the "norm" for a very good player.Very few but the best players are going to make 2.5+ bb/100 over a 100K+ hand sample.You should be happy with 1.50-2.25 bb/100.There is so much bullchit on these boards.The variance in any Short LHE games are mind-buggling.I play 50K a month..samples of less than 50K even 100K should not get the attention they do..How often do we see some newbie come on here and post PT stats where's he's made 2.50+ bb/100-then you look deeper into the guys numbers and he's winning something like 42%+ When Seeing the Flop-he's been running way good that's why and it can happen over very large sample sizes..to deceive all of us.
This is why you have a bunch of mediocre guys on this board who have moved up and now they are complaining about breaking even over long stretchs or they are in the midst of another 300bb losing streaks.Facts are they may be marginal at these higher limits and they should stay at the lower limit until they have a higher confidence that their winrate is maintainable and refine their game.That is only if they are having problems beating the new higher limit IF they are adapting and continuing to crush the higher limit--no reason to go back down or question your stats from the lower limit.But I dont understand on this board why a bunch of regular posters continue to play at limits where the variance of the game buffets them and their winrate are marginal at best.The objective of Poker for me is to make as much money as possible in a somwhat consistent fashion not play as high as possible with maximum variance..and just get by. This post is directed towards those players that struggle after moving up not the established earners. |
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This post is directed towards those players that struggle after moving up not the established earners. [/ QUOTE ] You mean all of us, right? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I can count on one hand the number of "established earners" who still post regularly. Scott |
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Re: Spring Break 5/10 Personal Challenge
Yes [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I dont mean the players that stuggle when they move up becuase we all struggle when we attempt to move up (at least most of us except for the natural great players).I'm talking about the guy/gals that struggle when moving up continue to struggle and stay in this high variance,marginal bb/100 purgatory...these players should go back down if they are making less than they could at their old limit..even if they are making the same amount but have twice the swingage in say weekly or montly results they should go back down refine their games and then again make a second attempt at the higher limit and hopefully this time they will be able to sustain a better bb/100.
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Re: Spring Break 5/10 Personal Challenge
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There is a common misconception on this board that 2.5/100 or 3.00/100 are easy to attain or the "norm" for a very good player. [/ QUOTE ] Nobody said they were easy to attain, but they're about what defines an very good to excellent player (depending on the limit) that's 1-2 tabling. What margin would YOU use? It seems to be the target that the OP is shooting for, or better, given his Nikla-worship [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. |
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Re: Spring Break 5/10 Personal Challenge
What's marginal? 1BB/100, maybe? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Re: Spring Break 5/10 Personal Challenge
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krishan btw listen to J.R. he knows his chit- [/ QUOTE ] God you're an idiot -- you attacked me, and I said I agreed with everything he said. |
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