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Old 03-31-2005, 02:35 PM
callydrias callydrias is offline
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Default Re: Best single game for determination of heads-up skill?

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Heads-up NL 5 card stud, by a mile.

There is so much skill involved in it, a weaker player has almost no chance. Similar to chess.

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Old 03-31-2005, 03:28 PM
Ace_Ren Ace_Ren is offline
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Default Re: Best single game for determination of heads-up skill?

In any NL game, a bad player could simply go all-in on the first betting round every single time. Games like Holdem, no matter how deep stacked, can be reduced to a simple game of all-ins where any idiot using this strategy could beat the best pros 25% of the time, it's not a winning strategy, but it gives anyone a shot against anyone.

For heads up, limit is a much more skillful style since the better player is going to have to prove it over a series of hands.

Of the games, I don't have enough experience playing the lesser known games to give good reasons as to why one is better than another.
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Old 03-31-2005, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Best single game for determination of heads-up skill?

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Opinions need here, folks.

What game do you guys think is best to determine heads-up skill? Ideally, it would be multiple games, but we're talking only one game here - one form of poker.

I've heard arguments for Stud H/L or Limit hold'em, myself. Your opinions?

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You should know not to post this crap if you have not searched the archives for hours. The regulars here get quite upset. There is a word for what they do, it is called forum tilt. They are like a tuned up pinball machine. Just breath the wrong way and they tilt.

Now to your question. HAVE YOU TRIED WAR? Remember you played it as a kid? You just put $100 on each card and bang you have your heads up game.

...That makes me feel bigger, posting like the other jerks here.
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Old 04-01-2005, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: Best single game for determination of heads-up skill?

Perhaps it should be PL 5-card stud then, this negates the ability of the weaker player to go all-in straight away.
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Old 04-01-2005, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: Best single game for determination of heads-up skill?

Thats not really needed. Many starting hand combinations yield much larger advantages in 5-stud than in holdem. Think about AA vs two random cards on a five card board instead of a seven card board. BIG difference.
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Old 04-01-2005, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: Best single game for determination of heads-up skill?

Skalansky or perhaps Malmuth once wrote an essay where he concludes that stud hi/lo with declare was the game with the biggest skill. The reason being that the skill in the declare part would give the better player a huge edge.

Personally, I would go with liar's poker. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 04-01-2005, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: Best single game for determination of heads-up skill?

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Heads-up NL 5 card stud, by a mile.

There is so much skill involved in it, a weaker player has almost no chance. Similar to chess.

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So then why is 5 card stud not played anywhere anymore?

I'm guessing that for the under 40 crowd, the most exposure they've had to 5 card stud is by watching "The Cincinnati Kid" on AMC.


regards,
Tim

(whose only exposure to 5 stud was by watching "The Cincinnati Kid" on AMC)
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Old 04-01-2005, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: Best single game for determination of heads-up skill?

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Heads-up NL 5 card stud, by a mile.

There is so much skill involved in it, a weaker player has almost no chance. Similar to chess.

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So then why is 5 card stud not played anywhere anymore?



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beause a weaker player has almost no chance
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Old 04-01-2005, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: Best single game for determination of heads-up skill?

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Heads-up NL 5 card stud, by a mile.

There is so much skill involved in it, a weaker player has almost no chance. Similar to chess.

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So then why is 5 card stud not played anywhere anymore?



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beause a weaker player has almost no chance

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all the more reason for the top players to ask for/demand it.
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Old 04-01-2005, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Best single game for determination of heads-up skill?

the classic, of course: rock paper scissors
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