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Old 03-19-2005, 12:44 AM
ilya ilya is offline
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Default Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble

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Yep, I know you didn't say he was a bad player... I assumed he was, because there was nothing to tell me otherwise. What % of $22 players are bad players? 80%?

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Fair enough.

The way I see it, you're not "bad" for your level unless you would be a loser even if there was no rake. By this standard, I would guess no more than half of $20 players are bad.
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Old 03-19-2005, 01:47 AM
Benholio Benholio is offline
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Default Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble

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Yep, I know you didn't say he was a bad player... I assumed he was, because there was nothing to tell me otherwise. What % of $22 players are bad players? 80%?

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Fair enough.

The way I see it, you're not "bad" for your level unless you would be a loser even if there was no rake. By this standard, I would guess no more than half of $20 players are bad.

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I just mean bad in such a way that they are likely to make bad plays, bad calls, etc. Even if they are only as bad as most of the field, I consider most of the field to be bad. (at the $20's)

Anyway, I hope my posts didn't come off as rude or anything, just saying how I feel about it~
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Old 03-19-2005, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble

There's a fundamental concept of SNG strategy that preempts any value this play may have.

The decisions for the remainder of this SNG are very straightforward.

I'll let others elaborate... do you see why... and it's not even close.... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Old 03-19-2005, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble

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Anyway, I hope my posts didn't come off as rude or anything

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Not at all,
I just hope I'm not coming off as crazy defensive.
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Old 03-19-2005, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble

I haven't read all the post here but I think in my gut if I go in to a hand thinking stop-n-go you still have the option of not "going" if the board is a disaster, which it is here. Any push signals to me "no flush" and my weak ace that i min-raised with is golden, and I call.
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Old 03-19-2005, 02:49 AM
ZebraAss ZebraAss is offline
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Not at all,
I just hope I'm not coming off as crazy defensive.

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No one here should ever feel like they are being rude or crazy defensive. As long as you are encouraging discussion it is great
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Old 03-19-2005, 04:08 AM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble

The point is, the guy doesn't have a stack to play postflop with in the first place. If you're going to call with a weak ace here, you were going to call preflop. This board isn't a disaster. I actually really like this board.

BTW, I don't like the stop-n-go here either. Just push the next hand.
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Old 03-19-2005, 10:11 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: Bluff stop-and-go on the bubble

I'd lean on UTG next hand or the hand after that.

I don't like a stop n go right here.

There is a gap concept on the bubble that applies to you but not necessarily to any opponent who shows interest in his/her hand. I think you're getting called postflop by most, if not all, of the hands that are better than you preflop.

Also, given the stack sizes and position here I think folding preflop is clearly the way to go.

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