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#21
03-09-2005, 03:55 PM
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Re: Why A-K sucks
Page 88 ToP:"When your trying to decide whether or not to bet your hand and worry about making a mistake - a mistake that costs you the pot is a catastrophe, especially if the pot has become relatively large, while a mistake that costs you one bet is not. When in doubt make sure you don't make a mistake that costs you the pot. Checking and giving an opponent with a WORSE HAND a free card may cost you the pot when he outdraws you."
1) Please don't misquote or "I think" when all that happens is you confuse concepts and make matters even worse. 2) Bet the flop, AK is not always a drawing hand - and was best until it was rivered at a discount but not a "slowplay" hand. 
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#23
03-09-2005, 04:03 PM
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Re: Why A-K sucks
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I was going to call you an idiot, but I'll refrain from that. [/ QUOTE ] It's OK, I think others have done this for you. [ QUOTE ] You're pretty lucky he didn't pop you back again on the river because he's an idiot. [/ QUOTE ] To be fair, this was impossible as villain was short-stacked and all-in.
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#25
03-09-2005, 05:29 PM
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Re: Why A-K sucks
Let me try some funky math out on the issue of AKo.
I'll leave out AKs because that has the added benefit of occasionally hitting a nut flush. AKo seems to me like a grinder hand that makes a small amount of money over the long haul as long as your opponents see you as being TAG rather than a LAG whoe raises with any two cards. Here's what I mean. Let's say I get AKo 5 times in a 200 hand session. Let's say I hit A or K on the flop 36% of the time, or twice. Let's say I come in for a standard raise every time ($2), there is an average of twolimpers at $.5 each in the pot each hand before I raise ($1.0 for the limpers), and I get an average of 1.5 callers per raise ($3.0 for the callers). Average pot by flop: $6 Let's say I auto bet over half the pot every time (twice you have A or K, once you bluff): $4 bet. I would guess 3 out of 5 times I win immediately = $4 net gain for 3 hands = $12 total. I would guess 1 out of 5 times, my opponent calls the $4 on a draw, making the pot $14, but he folds to a second barrel on the turn, especially if there's A or K on the board, when I bet $9 into a $14 pot = $8 net gain for this hand. Finally, I would guess that 1 out of 5 times I run into an opponent with a set, two pair, or a draw that catches the turn, so I get called or check-raised when I bet $9 into a $14 pot on the turn. I'm now out a total of $15 for this hand. I don't bet any more unless I have an insane read on my opponent. So, for every 5 AK hands, you win $20 but lose $15 for a net gain of $1/hand. This doesn't account for when you catch AAK, or TJQ, or any wierd hands that make you win big or lose big. This math is also off if you have a LAG image and no one gives you credit for a big pair when you fire that second barrel. Thoughts? Albert Moulton
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#26
03-09-2005, 06:03 PM
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Re: Why A-K sucks
Thoughts:
according to poker room's EV chart, AK (not AKs) has an expected value of 0.51xBB average every time you play it, and this statistic was recorded over more then 1 million hands. Note that if you are an above average player, you should do better. see: http://teamfu.freeshell.org/poker_hands.html AK 0.51 1,048,008 The only hands that make more money than AK are AA KK QQ JJ TT AKs and AQs. all these statistics have sample size of more then half a million hands. AK is a money maker.
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#27
03-09-2005, 06:14 PM
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Re: Why A-K sucks
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Checking and giving an opponent with a WORSE HAND a free card may cost you the pot when he outdraws you." [/ QUOTE ] I'm assuming you mean that i misquoted and the reason for this has something to do with the WORSE HAND you put in caps... On the flop, when OP gave away the free card, BB did have the worse hand. I don't see the misquote...
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