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Old 03-03-2005, 12:40 PM
Voltron87 Voltron87 is offline
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``Women, you can have it all - a loving man, devoted husband, loving children, a fabulous career,'' she said. ``They say you gotta choose. Nah, nah, nah. We are a new generation of women. We got to set a new standard of rules around here. You can do whatever it is you want. All you have to do is want it.''

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Wait, wait... is this what they got pissed off about? I really, really, really hate political college students. Especially the Ivy League ones.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:42 PM
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Dumb article, no info on what she actually said?

Don't dumb down, please. I got bitched at in a similar way during an argument. Being literate is not a crime.

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I agree 100%. But let's try to remember that the purpose of language is to communicate. And people that use language to try to sound smarter than everyone else, usually accomplish the opposite.
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Old 03-03-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Heteronormative?! HETERONORMATIVE??!

Wow.

Would have been much more inspirational if she had said, "You can have it all: a great career, a loving partner, or, in this state, a spouse of any gender or identity, great children fathered either by your hetero life partner or another man and inserted into the uterus of your spouse, and a boxy Volvo with a Meat is Murder sticker that frat boys will try to scrape off."

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Old 03-03-2005, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Heteronormative?! HETERONORMATIVE??!

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Dumb article, no info on what she actually said?

Don't dumb down, please. I got bitched at in a similar way during an argument. Being literate is not a crime.

NT

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I agree 100%. But let's try to remember that the purpose of language is to communicate. And people that use language to try to sound smarter than everyone else, usually accomplish the opposite.

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Some times language is employed precisely for the purpose of trying to sound smarter than everyone else.

Even on these forums.
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Old 03-03-2005, 01:40 PM
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I agree 100%. But let's try to remember that the purpose of language is to communicate. And people that use language to try to sound smarter than everyone else, usually accomplish the opposite.

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For better or worse, I need to explain that I am absolutely NOT trying to sound smarter than everyone else. The words I use are not extravagant or even particularly interesting to me, to be honest.

I think I grew up in a household that played a lot of Scrabble, read a lot of books, and appreciated the English language. I suppose it rubbed off on me.

I'll tell you, when I hang out with the few friends I have, I feel like an illiterate monkey. For better or worse, I have friends who are college professors, writers and other assorted brainiacs. They happen to speak with a bit of flair, you might say.

I will take the repeated advice to heart, though, and make sure not to appear as if trying to impress with my use of the language.

What else could I be expected to say to this? I'm trying to be gracious without being overly (solicitous). Please take this post in the honest spirit in which it was written.

NOTE: I couldn't for the life of me think of another way to say solicitous.
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Old 03-03-2005, 01:40 PM
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Dumb article, no info on what she actually said? Don't dumb down, please. I got bitched at in a similar way during an argument. Being literate is not a crime. NT

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I agree 100%. But let's try to remember that the purpose of language is to communicate. And people that use language to try to sound smarter than everyone else, usually accomplish the opposite.

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Some times language is employed precisely for the purpose of trying to sound smarter than everyone else. Even on these forums.

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Especially on these forums. That was pretty deep. You're obviously way smarter than I am. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 03-03-2005, 01:58 PM
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How silly the whole to-do is. What did they think she'd talk about, nuclear non-proliferation in the Middle East? She's a professional actress married to Will Smith so chances are she'd talk about that, no? If those comments made people "uncomfortable," we should send 'em Zeno to really upset 'em. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 03-03-2005, 02:01 PM
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For better or worse, I need to explain that I am absolutely NOT trying to sound smarter than everyone else. The words I use are not extravagant or even particularly interesting to me, to be honest.

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I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about heteronormative.
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Old 03-03-2005, 02:19 PM
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I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about heteronormative

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Oh, man.

You see, the other poster was talking about me, so, etc etc.

My point about heteronormative in the original post was that I think it's just a made up word crafted by someone with an agenda.
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Old 03-03-2005, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Heteronormative?! HETERONORMATIVE??!

It's easier to converse with only a few people at once, because then you have a better idea of their working vocabularies, and can therefore stick to words present in them.

When someone uses a word that I'm not familiar with, I usually just ask what it means. I think that's because I'm not embarassed by my lack of vocabulary and am more interested in expanding it further than in getting angry that someone inadvertently pointed out a single point of ignorance I posess.

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