Q for Dealers: Pool Your Tips or Keep Your Own?

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Absolutely keep your own. That way the dealers are motivated to get better, and the best dealers make the most money. There's no other system that makes any sense to me. Pooled tips allow major slackers a free ride on the good performance of others, while individual tips force everyone to get better and better.

Note that poker is basically the only game this system would work for, craps, blackjack etc need pooled tips, because certain of those games tend to get nuch more tips.

al

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This is why I won't tip in a place where it's pooled. Why subsidize the slackers who don't truly earn tips?

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That sucks. All that means is that the players who tip are subsidizing your poker play--we're all paying for a service.

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[juanez]

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You need to get over the "poor me the poor poor dealer" attitude you've been posting with.

I'd be shocked if it didn't carry over into your attitude in the box, which could just be exacerbating the problem. Working in Colorado your avg toke rate is likely in the $22-25/hr range, maybe even higher, and is in addition to your salary. The complaining is disingenuous at best.


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I was stating that my hourly wage, paid by the casino, is $4.00 per hour. Of course I make more on tokes and that was my whole point: toke good dealers better than poor dealers because that's where the majority of their income comes from. I wasn't "complaining" about how much I make. I do find the somewhat negative attitude in this forum regarding dealers rather humorous though.

And I have no "problem". I love my job and make good money. I have posted a few bad stories, but they have usually been in response to questions from other posters (like this thread).

Come visit Colorado Clark - I have a great attitude in the box. I haven't been in the biz long enough to get totally jaded like some of the older farts.

[IceKing]

In some casinos every dealer has a personal chiptray. They start with certain amount of chips, lets say 10.000. At the end of the shift, the 10.000 is removed, and the rest is dealers tip.
In these casinos chip-palming (dealer steals a chip from a big pot when pushing it) is more common, because dealer doesnt have to hide the chip, he/she just places it in the tray.

[Clarkmeister]

Alright, fair enough. It seems to me your posts have a certain amount of entitlement disease in them, but I'm willing to admit I could be wrong.

[Nick-Zack]

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Uhm i disagree weather or not the dealer is good i usually tip based on the size of the pot.

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This is a terrible idea. The whole concept of tipping is to reward good service. If a dealer is terrible (and not a break-in), then they should not be tipped. The only way to convince the bad dealers to improve or get another job is to not tip them.

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Would you not tip blackjack, craps, or other such dealers because some are good and some bad? Don't say "well I don't play those games" as an excuse not to answer the question either.

You still must tip, even in pooled tipping rooms. You're punishing the good ones just as much as you're punishing the bad ones. The best dealers shouldn't be punished just because the room they work in has a bad policy.

al

[Clarkmeister]

Al,

No one "must" tip for anything. Though I agree with your general point.

[Rams_Law]

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In some casinos every dealer has a personal chiptray. They start with certain amount of chips, lets say 10.000. At the end of the shift, the 10.000 is removed, and the rest is dealers tip.
In these casinos chip-palming (dealer steals a chip from a big pot when pushing it) is more common, because dealer doesnt have to hide the chip, he/she just places it in the tray.

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I image that's how its done, because the dealer 'buys' a special rake chip from his own tray with the rake ($3), and drops the rake chip, keeping the checks in the tray. At TS, even with the personal chip tray the dealers carry a tip box. I guess there's no incentive if the house keeps any overage in the tray.

[alittle]

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Would you not tip blackjack, craps, or other such dealers because some are good and some bad? Don't say "well I don't play those games" as an excuse not to answer the question either.

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I don't play in the pit much anymore, but I always tip for good (and merely decent) service. In both BJ and craps, a good dealer that knows how you play will nearly play the game for you, allowing less thinking and more drinking. Since you can move around easily (generally), bad or rude dealers just cause me to change tables rather than not tip.