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#22
02-23-2005, 06:18 AM
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Re: is this a good fold?
I don't think this is a bad fold.
Let's assume that one player has a straight. We can all agree that this is a safe assumption. Since he's not in a blind, we'll assume that he needs one of the following hands to make a straight: A6s, A6o, K6s, Q6s, 86s, 76s, 65s, 64s JTs, JTo Let's assume that the second player also has a straight with one of the hands above, or he can have 98s (top two pair) or a set with 99, 88, 77 or 55. According to Pokerstove, you have only around 13% equity against these hands. You're drawing totally dead to JT, which is a very commonly played hand by limpers at this limit. You're drawing to a 2- or 3-way split at best. There's also some chance that you're subject to a flush redraw on the river. I think a fold is prudent. To borrow an Omaha term, you're getting quartered here. 
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#23
02-23-2005, 06:24 AM
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Re: is this a good fold?
the bettor could also have a lot of Jx hands, betting an OESD, or a flush draw+pair or flush draw+overs
but are you saying it's a good fold, or just saying it's not as bad as everyone's making it out to be?
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#24
02-23-2005, 06:28 AM
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Re: is this a good fold?
[ QUOTE ]
the bettor could also have a lot of Jx hands, betting an OESD, or a flush draw+pair or flush draw+overs but are you saying it's a good fold, or just saying it's not as bad as everyone's making it out to be? [/ QUOTE ] I think folding is the best play by a small margin.
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#26
02-23-2005, 10:50 AM
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Re: is this a good fold?
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Should I fold this? Flop comments welcome as well Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks. Flop: (5 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls. Turn: (6.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, MP1 calls. River: (13.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP1 calls. Final Pot: 15.50 BB [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure you can give mp2 credit for JT. Would he lead the flop with it? Call the turn. Maybe cap it.
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#27
02-23-2005, 10:57 AM
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Re: is this a good fold?
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[ QUOTE ] Is this some sort of joke I don't understand? If you are serious, no. You should cap. I cap the river except against thinking opposition. [/ QUOTE ] If it ever came down to it, capping the river would be really really really bad. [/ QUOTE ] Amen.
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