Poker will never peak

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[carlo]

Full ring Limit at Stars is 10--NL is 9--I believe the 9 figure may have come from Doyle Brunsons first book where he states that the ideal NL game will contain 9 players. Also, hasn't the WSOP final event always attempted to have 9 man tables and the final table is 9. With the large numbers in the last 2 years this may have changed but the final table is still 9.

regards,
carlo

[Player12345]

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i'm not saying it to be racist. i am saying it because there will be little or no oversight and there will be a new breed of capitalists that will try and beat the system. it is no different than the notion that the new russia is full of mobsters. chinese players from small towns and provinces will see this as an opportunity and the local mood will be one of complicity not discouragement.

as developing countries develop, or communist countries turn socialist or democratic, there is a natural step back to a wild west mentality. this mentality will result in this new group of players trying to do things the scam way versus the traditional and proper way of learning the game through education as the way to beat it.

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You're statements about Chinese players being predisposed to cheating isn't racist?

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no racism, but definitely stereotyping. i am making a blanket comment about how people tend to react when development like this takes place. my comment comparing the chinese newly affluent to the russian newly affluent is not a racist comment. if it is ignorant of me to stereotype than so be it. but race is irrelevant to my opinion. historical changes like china is seeing is nothing new to modern history, and this history indicates that they will be more likely to try and team play if they think they can make quicker money that way as opposed to mastering the game.

[Michael Davis]

An increase in world population has nothing to do with online poker.

-Michael

[BradleyT]

Vegas isn't getting any smaller.

[Uglyowl]

Alot of older Americans are afraid of the internets. The population that is comfortable is growing so that is another factor to consider.

[47outs]

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i'm not saying it to be racist. i am saying it because there will be little or no oversight and there will be a new breed of capitalists that will try and beat the system. it is no different than the notion that the new russia is full of mobsters. chinese players from small towns and provinces will see this as an opportunity and the local mood will be one of complicity not discouragement.

as developing countries develop, or communist countries turn socialist or democratic, there is a natural step back to a wild west mentality. this mentality will result in this new group of players trying to do things the scam way versus the traditional and proper way of learning the game through education as the way to beat it.

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They still need to educate themselves to beat the game or their "cheating" wont work. I don't care if I have cheaters at my table if they suck.

But seriously, why the Chinese specifically. There is no legislation in our Democratic society that would prevent us from cheating. There is no "oversight" in North America.

You imply also that we have no "scam" here either. But we do.

Preventing cheaters from cheating is collusion detection software built into sites. This is prevelant for everyone who uses the site and is not ethnically biased. So this brings us back to the point, why the Chinese?


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[Cubswin]

with the chinese, there has been very little gambling allowed and is actually a capital crime in many places. however, the government has stopped caring about the core issues of communism in the past 5 years and they are not going to raise a stink when the newly affluent use their new internet connections to play poker.

Really?


China detains 597 in online gambling case

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Thursday, January 20, 2005

SHANGHAI, China -- Authorities have arrested 597 people in connection with an underground Internet gambling network thought to involve funds totaling more than $60 million, state media reported Friday.

The reports come amid a nationwide crackdown on unauthorized gambling.

The Ministry of Security said the gambling network, spanning 22 provinces and major cities, was allegedly run by a Taiwan-based company in collaboration with criminal syndicates on the Chinese mainland, the official Xinhua News Agency reported.

Altogether, 395 people suspected of organizing the network and 202 suspected gamblers have been detained, the state-run newspaper China Daily reported.

In Shanghai, police detained 87 people suspected of involvement in the gambling ring, it said. In nearby Jiangsu province, 106 people were detained and $20 million in gambling money and suspected gambling proceeds were seized, the reports said.

China launched a campaign against gambling last week, targeting overseas gambling, online gambling and illegal lotteries.

State-authorized lotteries, widespread throughout China, apparently are not affected by the ban. Nor are private gambling activities in people's homes, the China Daily said.

The popular custom of betting while playing cards or the traditional game of mahjong with friends and relatives is regarded as a form of entertainment and thus also not subject to the crackdown, the newspaper cited Tong Jianming, a police official, as saying.

Tong said the government planned to issue documents soon explaining which activities were allowed and which were illegal.

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but if you see a 100-200 table at pokerstars in 1 year from now that has 9 players from bejing, i would not join as the 10th.

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Doesn't a full ring game at PS seat 9 people?

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those shifty chinese are gonna add a 10th.

[Shaun]

Harsh but fair. I tend to agree. Poker isn't going anywhere.