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Old 01-27-2005, 02:13 PM
dburk2 dburk2 is offline
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Default Re: average hand turns into big hand

thats your outs of catching a card to win. im not talking about outs. we were saying earlier after the river card you % that you will win your hand. not catchng a card to win.....
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: average hand turns into big hand

it appears there's a problem with bison's converter, it's overreporting the number of players at each street there... because if there were six players in the turn, a check-raise would likely be for value if everyone would go to the river...
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:22 PM
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Default Re: average hand turns into big hand

In this case, there isn't much of a difference. When you catch it you usually win.
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:30 PM
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River: (14.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>,

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at this point, what can he have other than a full house? would he raise the flop with a flush draw? I doubt it
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:30 PM
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You need to cap this flop for value.
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:32 PM
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it appears there's a problem with bison's converter, it's overreporting the number of players at each street there... because if there were six players in the turn, a check-raise would likely be for value if everyone would go to the river...

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someone called or bet all-in at some point, hence the side pot
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: average hand turns into big hand

Actually, your right. I didn't look at the action close enough. The K clearly helped him on the turn.
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:41 PM
o0mr_bill0o o0mr_bill0o is offline
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it appears there's a problem with bison's converter, it's overreporting the number of players at each street there... because if there were six players in the turn, a check-raise would likely be for value if everyone would go to the river...

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someone called or bet all-in at some point, hence the side pot

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doesn't the converter usually show when someone bets all-in? also, it's messed up preflop, says that it's nine handed, but only shows eight players... then six go to the flop, but it says it's seven handed, etc.
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: average hand turns into big hand

and it was the best card for me, giving me the best possible flush
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: average hand turns into big hand

He was referring to the King on the turn which caused the Big Blind to lead out after just calling a three bet on the flop.

But the King on the river was probably the worst club you could have hoped for, with the 8 of clubs being the second worst since those are really the only two cards that could have made your flush and still cost you the hand.
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