Cashing out after Whoring

[Mike_S]

RV? What site is that

[AngryCola]

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RV? What site is that

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Royal Vegas. It's a Prima site.

I got a few bonses there recently. Prima has some extremely good games. I experienced no problems with the cashouts (two).
Other people have had to produce their DL and various other forms of ID.

Still, those are some very good games.

[Blackjack]

Ramashiva is going to be intimidating? bleh

Blackjack

[richrf]

Coupons are designed to make people spend money. You can consider that a win or a loss - it is a matter of perspective. If an "incentive" at the end results in a "net loss", then the person does not have "winnings" he has "losses". Period. Please none of this "politically correct talk". Sometimes the people on this board sound like they are employed by the casinos in the way they "phrase" their advice.

Bonuses are basically a wash (as I discovered after playersare did his calcualations for me) - they are there to induce play. A "fish" like myself will just end up losing money - so I pass. The "fisherman" will make money off of people like me, had I chosen to play. No thanks, I rather give my money to the people in Indonesia. And that is the way the game is played. Different strokes for different folks. I'm the turtle. I'll be around long after everyone else has run out of steam chasing bonuses.

Rich

[GMan42]

Rich--

If you indeed will "just end up losing money" by attempting to clear these bonuses, you must truly be a horrific poker player--the loss rate you'd have to incur is huge. Obviously I could care less about your decision not to pursue these bonuses, but try to be realistic about this...I really doubt you're that bad.

[richrf]

Hi GMan42,

I tried out the .25/.50, to see what it was like, and I got slaughtered. I was not surprised. I played my game, and it is not good enough yet.

There are two categories that make money: 1) players who know what they are doing and have been playing for a long time and 2) the casinos (they are like the brokers in the stock market game - they make money no matter what). And there is the category that lose money. These are everyone who loses because the casinos and the players who know what they are doing, are making money. It is a zero sum game. So when it comes to advice, I hope the "advisors" remember that there is such thing as losing money.

As Lee Jones says in his book - there are people who don't mind losing money and can afford to lose lots of money. And Jones thinks there is nothing wrong with that. On the otherhand, I am not one of those people. I rather win at the level I should be playing than lose money while playing at levels that are beyond my capabilities. Has anyone on this forum ever met someone who has lost money at higher levels? Well that's who I am right now. But who knows what things will be like in a year or two for now? Time will tell.

Rich

[AngryCola]

I see you didn't bother to take our advice.

Please don't comment on this thread until you have actually cashed out or received a bonus.

You are still giving out opinions and advice which have absolutely no basis.
Wait for experience. It's really a useful thing.

[SheridanCat]

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It is a zero sum game. So when it comes to advice, I hope the "advisors" remember that there is such thing as losing money.


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Cash game poker is not a zero sum game. If it were, the games would have dried up eons ago. As long as the losing players can go into their pockets, the game is on.

A specific tournament is a zero sum game, but I doubt that's what you're referring to.

Regards,

T

[SheridanCat]

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Please none of this "politically correct talk". Sometimes the people on this board sound like they are employed by the casinos in the way they "phrase" their advice.


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Well this is just crap, Rich. What, specifically, are you referring to? Because we suggest people take advantage of free money, we're shilling for casinos? Nonsense.

A winning player has a significant edge when playing for bonuses. Playing poker is about exploiting edges - sometimes the exploit goes wrong and you lose. But, in the long run, you will benefit from having those edges.

However, if you are a losing player you will lose. That's what losing players do. Bonus or not, they lose.

Sheesh, Rich, would you have us tell people not to take advantage of bonuses? If done correctly, money can be made using them.

Regards,

T

[1C5]

Rich, did you even read my post above? I am a pure beginner to hold'em and I managed to clear the Empire bonuses with a little profit on top of the bonus. I simply am trying to follow SSH and just doing that is enough to make $$ in small stakes.