First time to Borgata

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Play tightly, be well-capitalised and you'll find that you'll last at the table much longer than the loose morons who stay in with crap hands.

Suggestion: Since Borgata is a real classy place, order TOP SHELF drinks from the attractive drink waitresses (and waiters too oddly enough). You can order Ketel One vodka by name, and get stuff like Michelob Ultra bottled beer.

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At limits up to 10/20, playing tight and/or premium starting hands only on a weekend will only get you frustrated at those who beat you with bad hands...one must constantly adapt to table conditions and play accordingly at those limits. They also serve Heineken and Corona in case you like drinking beer with flavor [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Ruhr]

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Play tightly, be well-capitalised and you'll find that you'll last at the table much longer than the loose morons who stay in with crap hands.


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This sounds as if the Borgata games are a matter of survival by playing (weak-)tight. That's pretty crazy, as the games there are often insanely good...and this kind of strategy is seemingly way off.

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Okay, granted, I'm at the beginning of my poker career and still tend to be fairly conservative. So I'll back off from that earlier suggestion and say that if the original poster is a fairly new player, play tightly at first until you get a chance to see the average starting hands at the table, then adjust accordingly. As another poster has suggested, perhaps adapt your play to the current playing conditions is better advice.

But from what I've seen repeatedly (ex. 24o in MP calling preflop), is this going to make me play my hands like T3o? The answer is (still) no. I may still need to learn to adjust my starting requirements but there's just plain crap that my (tightness) can't bring me to play.

Am I missing something here?

[AviD]

Of course you aren't going to play T3o, but because others are playing hands like 24o (and yeah this happens all the time), you should be altering your own play to take advantage of such situations.

Your post came across as "hold out for AA/KK before entering a pot", which is a huge mistake given the texture and quality of players in these games.

As in ALL poker games, you should be adjusting accordingly, and this is stating the obvious. Playing "tight to survive" is indeed weak-tight advice, but as you mentioned you are earlier in your poker playing career, so in time you will learn this.

Playing just "tight" in the Borgata games will bring in the money (but as mentioned also created alot of frustration as your big hands WILL get cracked here and there) and you are giving up alot of equity by not playing additional hands (i.e. looser) when the game conditions are right.

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Now if that T3 was sooooted.... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Ruhr]

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Of course you aren't going to play T3o, but because others are playing hands like 24o (and yeah this happens all the time), you should be altering your own play to take advantage of such situations.

Your post came across as "hold out for AA/KK before entering a pot", which is a huge mistake given the texture and quality of players in these games.

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Oooh, no no, I might be new but I don't hold out like that at the Borgata. Believe it or not, I do play other hands [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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As in ALL poker games, you should be adjusting accordingly, and this is stating the obvious. Playing "tight to survive" is indeed weak-tight advice, but as you mentioned you are earlier in your poker playing career, so in time you will learn this.

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Gotcha. When I play at the Borgata, I don't feel like it's a survival game, but I'm slightly amused that I have a decent stack and am not reaching in my pocket all the time like the other super loose players. Surely I will learn to add more starting hands to my play in these situations [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Hey back to the drink topic, yes order premium beers and don't be ashamed to ask for top shelf. Tip the waitresses well, some of them are wicked fast (and good, too, they remember your drinks and are sweet).

[RogerZBT]

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(3) they serve booze all night without some pansy ass "last call"

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What casino has last call?? What time is it and when can you start drinking again?

[Dave D]

Wow, I go to bed and wake up to find all this...

As far as my experiance, I've read SSH and Holdem For Advanced Players. I've played online for about a year on Party, and went to foxwoods 3 times this summer and about 4 times during my winter break. By the way, I've noticed quite an increase in the quality of the foxwoods people, especially the dealers. Over the summer drinks seemed to take longer, and the dealers generally awarded a pot to the wrong person and had a misdeal every time I went. They also can all speak english these days, back then I felt like they were all asian and couldnt. Anyway...

What if I'm planning on getting there around 4 PM, does that change anything as far as the waitlist etc? And is it feasable to, uhh say you're someone who is about to be skipped b/c last call just got called ("last call for STD" Oh, I'm STD)?

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What if I'm planning on getting there around 4 PM, does that change anything as far as the waitlist etc? And is it feasable to, uhh say you're someone who is about to be skipped b/c last call just got called ("last call for STD" Oh, I'm STD)?

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The wait will be shorter the earlier you get there, so just use that to decide when you want to show up. And yes, jacking someone else's spot on the list is not frowned upon, unless you get caught [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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(3) they serve booze all night without some pansy ass "last call"

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What casino has last call?? What time is it and when can you start drinking again?

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The CT casinos don't serve alcohol between 2 am (it might be 1--I don't remember), and 10 am.

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By the way, I've noticed quite an increase in the quality of the foxwoods people, especially the dealers. Over the summer drinks seemed to take longer, and the dealers generally awarded a pot to the wrong person and had a misdeal every time I went. They also can all speak english these days, back then I felt like they were all asian and couldnt. Anyway...

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OK, I'm not alone on this. I found that the staff got much better around the big tournament. It was a mess during the tournament with all the people in from the pit, but it seems like after the crowds died down, they got got rid of the crap and kept the good people. Some of the floors are still dicks, but in general the dealers are much better. When I was going in the early fall, it seemed the floor was called for the dealer dropping the deck before the river was dealt on every trip. I haven't seen that happen in quite a while.

As an aside, do the dealers have to call the floor when this happens? I'd think they'd know what the rule is, but I've never seen a dealer just shuffle the stub and muck and deal the river without calling the floor first.